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Post by beetlesbailey on Aug 23, 2010 14:31:08 GMT 10
Hi All. A possible spanner for the number plate works... At least on cars many owners in pre 50's times (and today somewhat) transferred the plate to their next car. royal 313 has a 1925 Maxwell with the plate from a previous owners T Ford. On the oldest of the 2 it seems that we "crow eaters" have to be more vigilant or we will lose more of our old vans. We do still have 1or 2 that i know of and both have been shown on this forum at the caravan and camping show. Perhaps I could interest either of you in a one of towcar from 33. (it evan has a matching tear drop from 48) I've just bought another V.C.Valiant Safari for my Globe trotter, So it'll be ... Globey on Safari soon! Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 17, 2010 15:38:00 GMT 10
Congatulations Bob. Finally after so long this van is in your hands. (for the forum members Bob first looked at his van shortly after the 2009 caravan and camping show in Adelaide, say March 14 months ago. It has taken this long for the previous owners to get "organised" to sell it) It goes to show 2 things; Firstly the opportunities that come from letting the public know about and see your interest, and secondly that patience does pay good dividends. I'll be over with the BOTE COTE Bob. Cheers Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 17, 2010 15:25:25 GMT 10
My mate has had for many years a luxalite (or luxalight) I'm not sure of the spelling. This is on a cast bage like a "sportsman", but on a brass 3"x2" is "made by SAFTEE TRAILING UNIT" wait a minute the old brain box is a bit confused, it may be the other way around as in "SAFTEE TRAILING UNIT made by luxalight" however way it does match the 2 names. This van is shown on the Adelaide caravan and camping show thread from 2009 and is attached to a maroon 1935 De Soto sedan. cheers Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 17, 2010 15:00:52 GMT 10
Gee this brings back memories of the 3 teardrops I have worked on. What a lot of work. but it is all worth it in the end. My first was a sportsman deluxe that I basically did what you are doing but it had no springs or wheels. I later traded it for help restoring / 'retro ing' my home made one but not before starting a sportsman (not deluxe). This I replaced the bad timber as you have then sold it to get on with the real nice shaped home made one. The more I deconstructed the more rot I found so I used the old sides as a pattern and made a jig on chipboard and laminated recycled (stable) oregon hoops with new (recycled) studs. These sides were then joined with new "rafters' before being screwed to a new floor of braceboard (6/8mm masonite) mounted on recycled jarrah frame. All this is a bit of overkill and probably 50 kg heavier than neccessary. However I am confident out will outlast me. The most important thing I did was to use Bote cote exclusively for all gluing and then coated the new ply with bote cote and fibreglass matt of a thin /light weight. All this technique was learned from "DUCK FLAT WOODEN BOATS' at Mt. Barker S.A. To date we have done 6 vans including the Highway Palace in bote cote and f/glass. There is no way this van will ever rot. but it weighs 480 kg fully loaded as I weighed it in N.S.W. on a trip when I spotted a weighbridge. Every time I finished a gluing job I brushed the remaining bote cote on any untreated surface, especially ALL the underside. I hope this is of use to you and others.
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Post by beetlesbailey on Feb 14, 2010 12:28:19 GMT 10
Hi there my thoughts about the taillights on your magnificent van is that they come from Morris Major around 58/62. i'm not a fan of anything pommy but I'm sure I've seen them on a van and soon after on a pommy "car". Try googling all things pommy car related in that era. Getting good replacements of those lights would be far preferable to changing them. (in my opinion.) Regards Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Feb 11, 2010 13:35:33 GMT 10
Thanks mark for posting these pics for me. The little van has had a few alterations done it seems (as most have in 50 plus years. The day I took the pics was over 38 c and itwas soooo hot inside so not suprisingly I noticed that front and rear windows were fixed and may be original, but the once opening side ones were fixed shut! If and when Dave restores it I'm sure the side ones will be reinstated as openers and perhaps the end ones can too or at least made to look better. He is currently doing a Roadmaster 14' of 50's or 60's ( I cant remember). It's a beauty and we just fibreglassed the ply sides using 'bote cote' 2 part epoxy glue in luei of f/glass resin. This is the system used on wooden boats and is well worth the effort and cost as there will be no more wood rot EVER. This is the 4th van wev'e done with bote cote plus the highway palace which would have used more materials than all 4. Regards Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Feb 9, 2010 13:51:04 GMT 10
Hi guys/ fellow Globey owners, I replaced ALL the rubbers in my '66 gold coaster globey. both the one that the glass sits in as well as the one that seals the edge of the ally frame to the van body. The first was found at a local rubber supplies (Fitch the rubber man) but for the second they directed me to Larry Weepers at 'ROADMASTER CARAVANS' 83846011 OR FAX 83846187 Larry is a great guy who is interested in vintage vans so is on 'our side' (so to speak) You will need to take a sample to your local supplier for the first but Larry had the second made specially so he is probably our only choice. My 4 windows cost about $100 for rubber. Take a complete window out (of the same size as the broken one to take to the local glass supplier. That way by taking out the glass they can cut the exact size. (guessing the right gap around the glass to take the rubber can be risky). This also allows you to replace the old rubber that ia no doubt perished and cracked. As Al said use crc to lubricate while fitting the rubbers. Do the external one first BEFORE the glass is fitted. To remove a window sash, take out a plug (or screw) at one end of the hinge at the top of the window and slide the sash to one side after lifting it high enough to clear the frame. Check for obstructions to decide which way to slide it. Dont twist the frame or you will break the glass. If it doesn't slide easily, use crc in the hinge. I replaced all my rubbers as they were perished and rain washed black stains down on the paintwork and they didn't seal properly either. I also replaced the front and rear fixed window rubbers but that is a much harder job. With the one that fell out of the frame i suspect it came apart at one of the corners. They have metal right angle pieces called 'corner stakes' that screw into the ally frame. You will need you crc here too. Then remove the screws on each side of the "u" shaped bottom section of the frame and gently tap the top section up with a hammer and a block of wood, 2x1. DONT LOSE THOSE SCREWS! I hope this is of some help to you. Regards Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Feb 4, 2010 13:28:09 GMT 10
My mate just bought a small ply van with no interior lining. It's about 6' wide and 8' long. Kitchen across the front and a "double" bed across the rear with a table on off side wall between the two and a full length robe to the right of the door. Interesting is the brass plate on the robe end that reads;
BUILT WELL by BARNWELL CARAVANS 92 KINGS ROAD FIVEDOCK WF7812
Does anyone have any info on Barnwell or that adress? (Sydney) The van has glass lenses on tail lights etc that have scew on chrome rings to hold lenses on. It also has small bullet shaped clearance lights high on front ends of walls. (like those parking lights on the front guards of pommy cars of the 30's to 50's) It is running 13" consul ? wheels with bolt on stub axles. Although there is a gas bottle ring on the draw bar there is a petrol (spirit) stove inside. Iwould love to post pics but it is beyond my computer skills. Cheers Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Oct 8, 2009 12:08:35 GMT 10
What an interesting design. Some cues from Roadies, (Roof line) Furness,(Ceiling) and Globey, ( those wall extentions on the front). Donricardo, I dont recall seeing many F.J.tailights on any vans let alone S.A. ones. Pehaps I've been dozing. We had a great 3 days away in our 66 Globey on the long weekend at Port Elliot (S.A.) and are making a couple of improvements now. If anyone has any Globe trotter cupboard door knobs please p.m. me. Regards Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jul 15, 2009 15:57:43 GMT 10
Well done Jennison. I like those references to that great car maker in the sky. OOOHH their not dead YET are they. We'll have to accept Fiats in the chrysler restorers club now I suppose! Good on you Dave for getting this wayfarer and getting it home without the roof peeling back. I guess those 2" roofing screws did the job! Sorry I can't be at the bm to see your efforts. Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jul 10, 2009 16:51:40 GMT 10
Hey Dave. I didn't realIse there was a caravan called a SWEPTSIDE ! OH you forgot that one didn't you. Good luck way up in woop woop with wood wood. Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jul 1, 2009 18:20:21 GMT 10
I love the water tank on the roof. Knowing Gympie it probably produced hot water in summer and ice water in winter. My Daughter in Gympie has a 60's?ally van she may sell. It has ally windows that slope forward at the top and most of the interior is missing, but the ally and windows look ok. If anyone is interested I will talk to her. I couldn't make out the brand. regards Graham
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jul 1, 2009 18:09:16 GMT 10
I have a mid/late 60's Globe Trotter that now has a fridge which I guess replaced an ice box because when I removed the aluminium powder coated? white louvers behind the fridge I found a roughly cut hole for venting it.
This looks very amature rather than a factory job and the edges were not painted as they might have been if done in factory .
It also has hinge screw holes in the frame around the fridge which would indicate an ice box was fitted earlier. I would suggest that ice boxes were on the way out by this time though. Any ideas? Graham
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 25, 2009 13:41:10 GMT 10
2 corrections here; ONE; The highway Palace is towed by a FARGO. just FARGO no reference to Dodge or Plymouth is neccessary and although built by Chrysler, no one calls them Chrysler Fargo. I wonder why. ( just a little bug bear of mine) TWO; Sorry Dave but the hot water system in 'the Palace' was not via the exhaust but a was a coil around the pipe. We removed the shower as it was waay too close to the power board with all that sparky stuff. Dick reckoned he needed a shower less than that sort of heart starter. Then we reckoned it would be quicker to boil the jug than wait for the old coil to boil water. We could well be wrong of course but thats how it is. By the way the shower could easily be replaced as it consists of a vetrical pipe on a steel peg on the floor acting as a swivel, with a 90 degree elbow at the top with an extention pipe to reach over the bath. A saddle over the upper end of the 'standpipe' stopped it from falling down. In the bottom of the bath was a footpump on a hose that ran up to the rose. So one would stand on this pump and 'pedal' while showering. I think all this shower stuff was a later edition as it looked out of place with the other stuff. There was also a 'frisbee' shaped copper wall heater high on the bathroom wall. It had a coil behind it and I cant imagine it heating too much. Cheers Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 23, 2009 12:21:32 GMT 10
Damn Damn Damn. I have a prior 'cant get out of' engagement. I was going to take the Globey now that 6 hrs hard work for nette and I resulted in having the front and rear fixed windows rerubbered!
With my portable reverse cycle air con we'd be as warm as toast too. Maybe next time.
next time.
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 21, 2009 15:05:19 GMT 10
Hello Derk and welcome to the forum. When FJ's were young, say, in the 60's my grandparents neighbours in Wyong N.S.W. had a "Teardrop??" made from an FJ sedan. It was white with a light purple colour highlite. I recall it was chopped as it had key in rubbered windows about 150mm high above the door where the glass used to roll down to. The firewall was smooth and I think they entered via the boot or perhaps one door was left in opening mode while the others were sealed. There were no joins or seams visible for doors etc. Just so smooth and painted to match their FJ tow car. I have often wondered what happened to it. Has any one seen it. Most of these car/trailer,or car/van conversions look like crap but this was great. Have i planted a seed in that FJ head of yours? Cheers Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 18, 2009 21:18:52 GMT 10
Hey I love your yoot 2 and if your part of Q is near Gympie go to the stainless steel fabricator next to land rover spares on the west side of bruce highway and check out the owners unfinished project. WOW what a wild ute that is. Chopped, suicide doors with nifty 'find em if youcan' door locks,modern mercedes headlights frenched into guards, falcon wagon roof for solid bed cover, etc etc.... Body is nearly ready for metal finishing but a long way to go. It's a 42 I think with the big wide truck type grille you'll want to swap unless your a restorer like me. Cheers Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 18, 2009 20:59:49 GMT 10
Hi all, Mark is right about the 2 old vans and the boat in tas. I have had a copy for years and copied one for my shed wall. WHY? Because my name is Bailey of course and i had a couple of Furnesses at the time (they went to tassie as it happens) What intrigues me is the height of the front of that boat. I have a 29 dodge which is about 6' high. Judging that as the height of the tow cars i reckon the boat would need about 13' clearance! Now for you (other) old farts like me ,and some guy called dave,cast your minds back to the roads/tracks in to fishing spots in those days or for me in the 50's and 60's. LOTS of overhanging trees,rough bush tracks etc. I reckon they must have wiped out a few bouts before they gave up that idea. What do you think? Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 16, 2009 22:45:01 GMT 10
Thanks for the info dave. Just what the doctor ordered. And the coffee? Ihad to drink alone. beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 15, 2009 11:34:59 GMT 10
hi John and thanks for the offer to us all. Nice looking Mustang which reminded me ... someone once told me that they were like a dag under a dogs tail.. cant come out, cant go in so ..MUSTANG! By the way there was/is a little van somewhere near you on the highway just sitting under a tree as if it is used as a weekender. On left heading east. Cheers Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on Jun 15, 2009 11:27:37 GMT 10
For the uninitiated /just plain dumb, what is a moderator and what does one do. regards beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 25, 2009 21:00:31 GMT 10
Hi Andrew, Having seen photos of the G.T I would/did pass it up but as a retired chippy I just know there are easier vans to restore. I even saw a van like a g.t. on Sunday that looked better. may not be available though. Tonight I got a call about a Wayfarer, cheap. It needs work, may only be parts, but my point is they are out there and there are more vans than vintage vanners so dont rush. (just my opinion mind)
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 21, 2009 16:31:41 GMT 10
If you are like me and buy ally angle from the maker and find it doesn't bend you will need to anneal it. this requires an oxy set. First light your acetylene and let it burn with little or no oxy. This produces lots of soot. Paint this soot all over the angle by waving the torch along the angle. Now adjust your flame to "normal" and wipe the flame over the soot till it is all burned off. it will now be soft and bend around much tighter bends like the sharp ends of a globey roof. BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO OVERHEAT THE ALLY WHEN BURNING OFF OR IT WILL DROP AWAY TO THE FLOOR WITH LITTLE OR NO WARNING !!!! 10mm angle cost me $27.00 for enough to do both sides of my 14' globey. Be careful if you ask for 'J' mould as this is different in that it has a long side (say 15 mm) and a shorter side (say 5-8mm) where as mine had 3/8" x 3/8" angle. Take a sample Good luck Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 19, 2009 12:14:24 GMT 10
My only guide is that the 48 that I owned had one cupboard door catch on each door while the 53 had 2 on each door. The reason? Ithink that with 1 the doors bowed at the outer ends where they were not held back so they fitted 2. My 2 vans made this the obvious to me. Also these vans had different plaques on the doors (outside slider). Just a newer version of the same statement. sorry i cant help more Dave. Beetles
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 15, 2009 12:51:11 GMT 10
well Dave I made a compromise. I brought home parts of that Globey. It was too far gone to do anything else. i replied in depth to Wannabenomad" detailing as much as I ca remember about the differences in his, mine 313 royals and the parts van. So look there for more info
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