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Post by King Fisher on May 10, 2013 10:54:40 GMT 10
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bigkel
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Post by bigkel on May 10, 2013 11:46:30 GMT 10
Hi all , as for as i can tell many of you use the original gas stoves that the vans come with . ask a gas fitter about the risks involved , 15 years ago i had trouble getting a gas certificate for a 1982 stove in a van . to old to be totally safe ,Thats what the cas fitter said . . all is good if you are awake ,BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO SLEEP IN THE VAN TURN OFF THE GAS AT THE CYLINDER FIRST .
Cheers Kel.
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Post by isambard on May 10, 2013 21:38:07 GMT 10
I'm not big on piped in gas inside vans. we use electric only bar fridge and cook on those $20 burners which run on disposable cartridges. two of those does a family of four nicely  |
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Post by Franklin1 on May 10, 2013 22:28:46 GMT 10
G'day kfisher, The gas stove you're thinking of might be one of the Shields Jetflame models. I have the 3-burner version in my shed, with the stainless steel body and the 3 red burner knobs...  --------------------------------------------------------- isambard, I'll tell you an interesting story about those disposable butane gas canisters... Six years ago my partner and I sold both our houses and jointly bought our current property. In the big move, two houses worth of goods and chattels meant our double garage ended up being chock-a-block with all the stuff that couldn't fit into the house. Nine months after we moved in, her youngest son left a flood light on in the garage after getting his bike out. The floodlight ended up overheating a couple of foam mattresses that were stored too close to it. One thing led to another and the garage burnt down, along with $12,000 worth of belongings. In amongst all the stuff stored in there was a pack of four unused gas canisters, grouped with all the camping gear. As the heat of the fire rose, two of those canisters exploded and became jet propelled rockets. After the 'Firies' had finished, we had the overwhelming job of sorting through all the mess. I ended up finding the two empty canisters outside the garage, and traced their trajectory back to two perfectly round holes through the 1/4"-thick fibro sheeting in the garage wall. Normally you would expect the old-style fibro to shatter to pieces, but in this case it didn't. It was one of the most mind-boggling sights I've ever seen.  If you have them in your caravan and there's a fire...don't hang around.  cheers, Al. |
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Post by King Fisher on May 11, 2013 6:51:09 GMT 10
Hi Franklin1. That's exactly the stove that is currently in our van (well actually it's burried in the shed at the moment ). Going by your pictures it looks like it's in similar condition as mine. Just a question is yours sitting in the shed because it could not get a gas cert? or just in storage? |
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Post by Roehm3108 on May 11, 2013 7:07:38 GMT 10
Gas containers + confined space + heat = potential disaster  Your story Franklin1 is not uncommon. I used to keep an almost empty disposable lighter in my car glovebox - until I found the shreds of one that had exploded from the heat. Have also had paint spray cans distort when kept in a garden shed during some of those hot days you can get down here in Vic. In many respects, "real" gas bottles stored on a drawbar are the safest to have. |
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Post by Franklin1 on May 11, 2013 12:29:16 GMT 10
G'day kfisher, Just in storage. I picked it up at a local monthly market a number of years ago for the princely sum of ten bucks. Didn't really need it but it was too good a bargain to leave there (I'm a real sucker when it comes to bargains... ) I don't even know if it works or not. I've never hooked it up to see, but if looks are anything to go by, I don't see any reason why it won't work. It certainly looks to be in very good condition. One day I'll clean my shed out and all this surplus caravan stuff will find new owners. It's the 'cleaning out' bit that I dread. ------------------------------------------ Ray, during my 36 years at the local Steelworks, we had the occasional boilermaker/welder suffer injuries when welding sparks made contact with their butane lighters in their top pocket. Not a pretty sight when a lighter explodes against your chest. cheers, Al. |
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Post by King Fisher on May 15, 2013 14:20:12 GMT 10
Thanks for the interesting stories and facts. So far it's not looking good for the gas option, in my opinion.
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Post by isambard on May 15, 2013 15:00:06 GMT 10
Hey Al, that's quite a story. Arresting sight, no? but fear not, we NEVER have any kind of gas receptacle inside tents or vans. and we always cook outside I come from a long and ignoble line of hardened campers, so the golden rules were installed at a young age! |
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Post by urkel1965 on May 15, 2013 20:03:47 GMT 10
Hi KFisher
I have a two burner along the same lines of yours. My setup originally had the gas bottle set up in the cupboard under the stove, which is a no-no now.
I had a gas bloke a couple of doors from me flick the first lit match into it to see if it was still OK. No problems. Now I carry a 1.25kg gas bottle in another cupboard, and on the rare occasion I cook, I take the stove & bottle outside to use.
In saying that, my van is so small, I think the cooking smells would hang around inside for too long. Plus, I would have to do something else with the spare tyre on the very short drawbar, and go through all the gas fitting stuff....all too hard!!
Steve
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Post by King Fisher on May 17, 2013 12:09:42 GMT 10
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Post by Rattles on May 17, 2013 12:41:53 GMT 10
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Post by shesgotthelook on May 17, 2013 13:00:28 GMT 10
Gas is certainly something you don't want Vintage of. Let no.1 son use an old gas bottle for his steam bender & it caught on fire.  Lucky it wasn't on the old van I pulled it off! Having a gas fridge is great if you are camping unpowered but I would the have the whole lot re-done by a qualified plumber. |
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Post by redmr2red on May 17, 2013 14:34:50 GMT 10
Good suggestion shesgotthelook. ;D The correct way to test your gas installation for leaks is using a manometer which a qualified plumber can do for you. NEVER TEST FOR LEAKS USING A LIT MATCH If you want to satisfy yourself that your gas installation has no leaks you can use soapy water. 25% kitchen detergent with 75% water in a squeeze bottle. Shake it to produce bubbles and with the gas cylinder turned on, spray the bubbles over all the joints. Inspect each joint carefully for a minute or two, if there is a leak the bubbles will grow bigger. www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-check-for-gas-line-leaks.html |
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Post by King Fisher on May 28, 2013 7:23:35 GMT 10
The decision has been made and the gas line has gone. I will use a portable camp stove or an electric hotplate when on a powered site.
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Post by urkel1965 on May 28, 2013 22:36:39 GMT 10
Hi KFisher,
Good idea. I only ever stay in van parks with my van, as it is not set up for roadside stops, so have no concern using their BBQ's provided. I did drag out my stove the last time, when the van park BBQ had a blockage in the coin slot, and I really wanted my bacon & eggs for Brekky, and had to break out the toaster too!!!
Cheers
Steve
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Post by King Fisher on May 29, 2013 6:30:32 GMT 10
Gooday urkel1965, It's been interesting that the common theme is that most people cook outside and hardly ever use the in built stove.
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Post by King Fisher on May 29, 2013 6:45:43 GMT 10
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Post by isambard on May 29, 2013 11:49:32 GMT 10
I need a door just like that for my little Globby! nice job. looks like a bought one  |
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Post by King Fisher on Aug 21, 2013 14:50:02 GMT 10
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Post by King Fisher on Aug 23, 2013 8:07:47 GMT 10
Off to Vic Roads soon for the inspection and rego. So fingers crossed...
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Post by Geoff & Jude on Aug 23, 2013 9:30:45 GMT 10
hi kfisher
the van is a credit to you both.
after the monumental resto you've just finished, i'm sure you'll have no problems getting it registered.
good luck and then it's time to get out and enjoy the results.
geoff 'n jude
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Post by King Fisher on Aug 23, 2013 20:40:43 GMT 10
Thanks. It went really well. No problem at all. A quick check of the vin number and that it was stamped on the drawbar. I got a R number assigned earlier by calling Vic Roads. And a check of the lights. Then paperwork and paid $64 and they handed me the plate. All up took about 20min and four years work was done. Now we are looking forward to taking her out for her first run next weekend. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by King Fisher on Aug 27, 2013 7:07:50 GMT 10
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Post by kerrib on Sept 11, 2013 20:42:14 GMT 10
Wow, just wow. What an amazing journey.
Having just got my own little project I am now both inspired and scared to my core!
So glad you finished her, hope I can see her in real life one day.
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. It's silver with red Bakelite knobs, looks in good condition but untested.) The gas line is damaged at the bottle end and needs a new piece of hose and a regulator attached. We could cut the line and fit a flexy hose to replace the damaged bit. There is also the space problem on the draw bar to think about, but two bottles side by side will solve this. It's funny even having the gas as there is nothing else that uses it as there is no fridge. I have been wondering whether to dispense with the gas altogether and just use a two burner alcohol stove in it's place. What do think? 
