Post by King Fisher on May 10, 2013 10:54:40 GMT 10
Dad popped in to have a look at the adaptor plate for the new tow hitch and to have a look at what we can do about a gas bottle mount. The draw bar is too small to fit a standard BBQ bottle in the middle and the over run hitch. We think we will use two bottles which is not only overkill as I'm only running a stove off them but it will allow a space in the middle for the hitch to operate without hitting the bottle.
Been thinking about the gas system. Currently there was an old two burner stove installed (Been looking every where for a picture of it but I can't find one . It's silver with red Bakelite knobs, looks in good condition but untested.) The gas line is damaged at the bottle end and needs a new piece of hose and a regulator attached. We could cut the line and fit a flexy hose to replace the damaged bit. There is also the space problem on the draw bar to think about, but two bottles side by side will solve this. It's funny even having the gas as there is nothing else that uses it as there is no fridge. I have been wondering whether to dispense with the gas altogether and just use a two burner alcohol stove in it's place. What do think?
Hi all , as for as i can tell many of you use the original gas stoves that the vans come with . ask a gas fitter about the risks involved , 15 years ago i had trouble getting a gas certificate for a 1982 stove in a van . to old to be totally safe ,Thats what the cas fitter said . . all is good if you are awake ,BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO SLEEP IN THE VAN TURN OFF THE GAS AT THE CYLINDER FIRST . Cheers Kel.
Its hot up here. 1960 Pontiac Catalina wagon 1960 Pontiac Bonneville sports coupe 1965 Pontiac Parisienne Convertible 1963 Sunliner
isambard, I'll tell you an interesting story about those disposable butane gas canisters...
Six years ago my partner and I sold both our houses and jointly bought our current property. In the big move, two houses worth of goods and chattels meant our double garage ended up being chock-a-block with all the stuff that couldn't fit into the house.
Nine months after we moved in, her youngest son left a flood light on in the garage after getting his bike out. The floodlight ended up overheating a couple of foam mattresses that were stored too close to it. One thing led to another and the garage burnt down, along with $12,000 worth of belongings.
In amongst all the stuff stored in there was a pack of four unused gas canisters, grouped with all the camping gear. As the heat of the fire rose, two of those canisters exploded and became jet propelled rockets. After the 'Firies' had finished, we had the overwhelming job of sorting through all the mess. I ended up finding the two empty canisters outside the garage, and traced their trajectory back to two perfectly round holes through the 1/4"-thick fibro sheeting in the garage wall. Normally you would expect the old-style fibro to shatter to pieces, but in this case it didn't. It was one of the most mind-boggling sights I've ever seen.
If you have them in your caravan and there's a fire...don't hang around.
Post by King Fisher on May 11, 2013 6:51:09 GMT 10
Hi Franklin1. That's exactly the stove that is currently in our van (well actually it's burried in the shed at the moment ). Going by your pictures it looks like it's in similar condition as mine. Just a question is yours sitting in the shed because it could not get a gas cert? or just in storage?
Gas containers + confined space + heat = potential disaster
Your story Franklin1 is not uncommon. I used to keep an almost empty disposable lighter in my car glovebox - until I found the shreds of one that had exploded from the heat. Have also had paint spray cans distort when kept in a garden shed during some of those hot days you can get down here in Vic.
In many respects, "real" gas bottles stored on a drawbar are the safest to have.
Just a question is yours sitting in the shed because it could not get a gas cert? or just in storage?
Just in storage. I picked it up at a local monthly market a number of years ago for the princely sum of ten bucks. Didn't really need it but it was too good a bargain to leave there (I'm a real sucker when it comes to bargains... ) I don't even know if it works or not. I've never hooked it up to see, but if looks are anything to go by, I don't see any reason why it won't work. It certainly looks to be in very good condition.
One day I'll clean my shed out and all this surplus caravan stuff will find new owners. It's the 'cleaning out' bit that I dread.
Ray, during my 36 years at the local Steelworks, we had the occasional boilermaker/welder suffer injuries when welding sparks made contact with their butane lighters in their top pocket. Not a pretty sight when a lighter explodes against your chest.
Hi KFisher I have a two burner along the same lines of yours. My setup originally had the gas bottle set up in the cupboard under the stove, which is a no-no now. I had a gas bloke a couple of doors from me flick the first lit match into it to see if it was still OK. No problems. Now I carry a 1.25kg gas bottle in another cupboard, and on the rare occasion I cook, I take the stove & bottle outside to use. In saying that, my van is so small, I think the cooking smells would hang around inside for too long. Plus, I would have to do something else with the spare tyre on the very short drawbar, and go through all the gas fitting stuff....all too hard!! Steve
If you must carry gas bottles ( they should be in a sealed cupboard with access and venting to the outside) at least they need to be restrained and held upright and a sealing plug screwed into the gas outlet see picture:
shesgotthelook but I would the have the whole lot re-done by a qualified plumber.
Good suggestion shesgotthelook. ;D
The correct way to test your gas installation for leaks is using a manometer which a qualified plumber can do for you.
NEVER TEST FOR LEAKS USING A LIT MATCH
If you want to satisfy yourself that your gas installation has no leaks you can use soapy water. 25% kitchen detergent with 75% water in a squeeze bottle. Shake it to produce bubbles and with the gas cylinder turned on, spray the bubbles over all the joints. Inspect each joint carefully for a minute or two, if there is a leak the bubbles will grow bigger.
Hi KFisher, Good idea. I only ever stay in van parks with my van, as it is not set up for roadside stops, so have no concern using their BBQ's provided. I did drag out my stove the last time, when the van park BBQ had a blockage in the coin slot, and I really wanted my bacon & eggs for Brekky, and had to break out the toaster too!!! Cheers Steve
Post by King Fisher on May 29, 2013 6:45:43 GMT 10
Last weekend got stuck back into Bessie. Time to look at and finish off the door. But first it was time to say good buy to the old one as it was hard rubbish time.
Ruffly cut out the 3 ply for the outside of the door and sickaflexed and stapled it on. The first few staples I went across the grain but it made too much mess with the staple holes so I soon changed to run the staples with the grain.
Flopped over and added some foam insulation
Some more sickaflex and added the second side.
Trimmed off the side overhang on the cladding, trimming it flush with the framing with the router.
Used a flush trimming bit
Next I made a hole to start and used the router to cut out the hatch hole.
A test fitting of the hatch door
Then I ran oround the outside of the door with a bedevilled router bit and took the sharp edge off it. Filled the holes from the staples.
Post by King Fisher on Aug 21, 2013 14:50:02 GMT 10
Been busy finishing Bessie enough to present to Vic Roads for registration and spending some time in Vietnam. So been a bit slack with the posting.
Finished fitting the rear tail lights, after making up backboards for the lights and number plate.
Fitted the new tow shackle, chain and wiring for the trailer lights and battery charger. I am using a 2 row square trailer plug so that auxiliary power can be supplied through the same plug to charge the battery in the van while driving. Also I have placed a new rubber wheel replacing the old steel wheel on to the old original jockey wheel (Still needs a smige more paint on the shaft though).
I was a little worried about stones breaking the front window while driving so I made up a hard clip on cover out of a piece of ply and roughly painted on some stripes for effect. Later I might make a better one (was running out of time).
Yesterday we gave Bessie a good clean out, and removed all the tools and junk so she can go and have her first weigh in.
Bessie waited patiently in the drive overnight till morning where dad will take her to be weighed.
The moment of truth. The first time that Bessie has been 'hitched' in about 30 years!
Off into the street and to be weighed
My finished door ended up looking pretty good if I say so myself...
Off to the weigh station. It was a bit of an emotional moment finally seeing her leave home. Gracefully gliding up the street.
Post by King Fisher on Aug 23, 2013 20:40:43 GMT 10
Thanks. It went really well. No problem at all. A quick check of the vin number and that it was stamped on the drawbar. I got a R number assigned earlier by calling Vic Roads. And a check of the lights. Then paperwork and paid $64 and they handed me the plate. All up took about 20min and four years work was done. Now we are looking forward to taking her out for her first run next weekend. ;D ;D ;D