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Post by Cruz on Nov 17, 2010 17:46:03 GMT 10
Hi All, Runlite Well although its a while till i will need internal fittings i thought i would start to ask around. The van was built in the late 30,s and while it does not need to be 30's It will need to blend with that era. I will need small sink, water tank gravity feed wall or bench top type,ice chest cupboard handles etc. As i am not a carpenter my plan at this stage is to wreck a more modern van and cut down seats,cupboards etc or at least us them as a guide. Lino will also need to be found.I would also assume( yes i know what that means)that there was no laminex was used at that time and that all finishes would of been painted. Even some internal photos of that era may help. Any leeds would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Cruz
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Post by DC3Td on Nov 17, 2010 18:21:33 GMT 10
Hi Cruz. There`s a few selections of cupboard door bakelite/lucite/art deco handles on ebay currently. It`s up to you how much you want to pay. You`d probably need to know just how many you actually need & if they`ll suit your colour scheme.Sinks come up every so often. Ice chest? Good luck. However if you traipse through the esky cooler/chiller/ice box/ice chest variables you do see suitable items. Although a sheety by trade, i bought an insulated metal ice box quite some time ago for the teardrop primarily as it was cheap & saved me making one. So do some measurements & go from there. Lino? Again,good luck. Laminex? We have a heading for that in the Technical Section - Suppliers etc. You`ll also see stuff re handles/light fittings etc. Good luck & a belated Birthday Wish to you. cheers gordon
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Post by surfingyogini on Nov 17, 2010 18:55:26 GMT 10
If you do a worldwide search for "Bakelite pulls" there are some beautiful ones on the bay at the moment. The Aussie dollar means that even with postage it's cheaper - and there is more choice - than getting them here. Try also Bakelite handles and spelling variations (or bakerlite, bakelight). I found a beautiful deco light fitting and some bakelight fittings yesterday at my local tip shop yesterday so maybe see if yours - orna local demolition yard - has some goodies too.
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Post by JBJ on Nov 17, 2010 19:17:50 GMT 10
Hi Cruz.
When I was rebuilding "Lucille" I was lucky enough to find a lino hall runner in Brisbane, over 60 years old, & I got 6 metres x 900mm wide for under $100. Took a day up & back to get it, but good value.
I guess that more good lino must come up occassionly, & surely if its outside your area one of the Forum members would help out picking up & storing for you if you find something.
I'm not sure when Laminates started being used, but someone will know. I think from memory the vans my parents borrowed/hired & used in the late 50's( & they were old vans then) only used lino on floors & benchtops, & painted everywhere else.
Best of luck with the rebuild, its a unique van.
JBJ
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Post by cobber on Nov 17, 2010 19:49:22 GMT 10
G'day Cruz, I can only use Ol' 36 as an example of how things were done in the 30's. No laminex.... work surfaces as in the kitchen area were painted with a gloss enamel and other areas such as tables were stained and painted with a clear lacquer. The floor covering in Ol' 36 when I got her was plain grey/black..... that may have been the owners choice but I don't think fancy coloured lino was necessarily in vogue at that time. Have fun Cobber.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Nov 17, 2010 21:18:25 GMT 10
No laminex.... work surfaces as in the kitchen area were painted with a gloss enamel and other areas such as tables were stained and painted with a clear lacquer. The floor covering in Ol' 36 when I got her was plain grey/black..... that may have been the owners choice but I don't think fancy coloured lino was necessarily in vogue at that time. Hi Cruz, Good to hear that you have begun work on restoring the Runlite, or at least thinking about it. I think Cobber is pretty on the mark, but for what it's worth the smaller post-WW2 Dons up to a certain point used lino (with the same pattern as the floor) as the surface on the table. Laminex was used on the table tops in the larger 14 foot models from at least the late 1940's onwards, possibly a little earlier. Anyway, I think you probably wouldn't go wrong if you used lino for the surface of your table. Interesting where these discussions lead... According to this website, flat plastic laminate sheet was developed in around 1913 by a couple of Westinghouse engineers who worked out how to impregnate paper with - wait for it - Bakelite, then press the sheets together to form the plastic laminate. The resultant sheet was called "formica". Laminex is the name of the manufacturer we probably know best in Australia, and has become a generic name for us like 'biro'. Plastic laminate sheeting was first used to produce the cases for radios, etc, and began to be more widely used for bench surfaces, etc, in the 30's and 40's. There you go - more than you ever wanted to know about laminex!! Don Ricardo
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Post by Franklin1 on Nov 17, 2010 22:30:35 GMT 10
According to the newspaper archives, in 1936 the term "Laminex" was a patented process of fusing men's collars and similar garments into a semi-stiff form, thereby dispensing with starch. Advertisements for men's shirts highlighted the Laminex collar as a major selling point. And in another piece of useless information , did you know that linoleum was invented in 1865? No, me neither. Anyway, that's enough of that historical nonsense. Gotta go polish me slot-head screw collection. cheers, Al.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2010 23:26:26 GMT 10
Hi Cruz. I have an ex army tin esky with hinge open door/lid. I was going to adapt it for use in "Rosie "when i was looking at ice chest options. Probably stand about 600 high X 300 deep x 450 wide if it was stood on its end......not much different in size to an original ice chest .. wall thickness is about 30 mm . i would think it has reasonable insulation qualitys. Could be built into cupboard space and fix ply on the front of the door to disguise it. I got it for nothing off a forum member a few years back... Sooo... its yours for nix if you want it. Not sure how quick you need it , but i can bring it to Nelligen in feb if ya want it. I think there might be a picture of it under the "Mildred .. a sister for Matilda " thread in " Members photo album" Also have a fair selection of old bakelite switches and Power points , window support brackets etc, if need be. Just pm me with the specific of what exactly you are chasing and i will see if i can help out...... Do ya want a set of venetians?? I have enough for four windows?? I think there is two small and 2 larger ones ?? Cheers Reddo
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Post by humpty2 on Nov 18, 2010 18:48:46 GMT 10
"Janorma" our late 30's van has the table & benchtops painted. The cupboard hardware is the same as found on kitchen dressers of that period, my floors I just varnished but lino was the go back then. Hope that is of some help to you.
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