Murph
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Post by Murph on Mar 19, 2012 20:48:21 GMT 10
Greetings. I have just purchased Henderson bondwood caravan (1963 I have been told) for restoration. It has been gutted and I have been thinking of relining it with ply (roof and walsl prior to installing cupboards, bed, table and benches. I found something on the Internet which suggested using battens for the roof, floor and walls and installing natural insulation (wool). What do others think about this and what thickness ply should be used for the walls given that high cupboards will be attached to it. What thickness of ply for the ceiling? Many thanks. John
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 7:19:25 GMT 10
hi all
can anyone help john with information about john's wall lining.
he's sought help from caravan suppliers but they weren't able to give any advise.
conti
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Post by hilldweller on Mar 21, 2012 16:34:30 GMT 10
Well i'm certainly no expert but what I've gathered is the lighter the better for wall lining - 3 or 4mm. It willl be the framing behind the lining which supports the cupboards, not the lining itself. Is the wool in sheets or loose? If loose I would think it would gradually work its way down to the lower half of the walls.
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Post by Franklin1 on Mar 21, 2012 21:52:24 GMT 10
G'day John, Our History section says the Henderson vans are 6ft 6ins wide. I take it that that means the external width of the van is 6' 6", which means the internal width is something like 6ft 5-and-a-bit inches. Once you start adding layers of insulation and internal panelling to the inside walls, you'll be reducing that internal width even more. If you have a rear bed that's "east-west" then you will be reducing the length of the bed space. That probably mightn't be an issue if you are shorter than 6ft tall, but it can get a bit cramped if you are tall like me. Timber is a good insulator, so maybe you don't need any further insulation?? Maybe a good doona or an extra jumper instead?? Thinnest (and cheapest) insulation might be the discarded cardboard boxes from your nearest retail outlet that sells outdoor settings (tables and chairs). You can get really large pieces of cardboard out of these empty cartons. At most the cardboard would be about a 1/4" thick, plus an internal ply lining of 1/8" thick, means you are reducing the width by 3/8" either side. Final interior width might be around the 6ft 4 ins mark or so. Put battens on the face of the internal ply where you want to put the overhead cupboards. The bottom of the cupboards rests on top of the battens. If you anchor the top perimeter of the panelling to the caravan framework properly, and the front of the cupboards are anchored to the ceiling properly, it should all hold together. If it doesn't, you'll have what is known in vintage caravan circles as a "Henderson moment", where one moment you have a Henderson van, and the next moment you have a box of Henderson matchsticks.  I'd give the 'doona and extra jumper'-option a bit of serious thought though.  cheers, Al. |
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Post by Murph on Mar 23, 2012 17:30:18 GMT 10
Many thanks Al and Hilldweller. Some good advice, I'm 6' tall so am not keen to reduce my stretching space. Thanks too for mentioning the history section. I'm keen to find out more about Henderson. I consulted a local private caravan maker who told me that I can purchase thin foam sheets for insulation, but will check out how thin before I include it in my planning. He also suggested that wood was a good insulator. I'm on a steep but exciting learning curve. Thanks again for your advice. Will consult you again. Best wishes, John
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Post by murray on Jul 12, 2013 10:13:46 GMT 10
G'day John, Thinnest (and cheapest) insulation might be the discarded cardboard boxes from your nearest retail outlet that sells outdoor settings (tables and chairs). You can get really large pieces of cardboard out of these empty cartons. At most the cardboard would be about a 1/4" thick, plus an internal ply lining of 1/8" thick, means you are reducing the width by 3/8" either side. Final interior width might be around the 6ft 4 ins mark or so. I'd give the 'doona and extra jumper'-option a bit of serious thought though. cheers, Al. Is this a good option. Has any member used cardboard as insulation in their vans ? Cheers Murray |
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Post by shesgotthelook on Jul 12, 2013 13:27:13 GMT 10
A good & easy insulation is polystyrene sheets. Just cut to size for each section & lightly glue in.
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Post by webrake4bricabrac on Jul 12, 2013 17:53:25 GMT 10
I don't think cardboard would last very long if there it's any kind of moisture/condensation.
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