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Post by DC3Td on Aug 27, 2010 17:02:13 GMT 10
A few days ago there was talk about these badges. Scouring the web i notice slight design changes. Any one know exactly when these were introduced & how one gauges the year given the variations of designs - some have fixing holes through the wheels,others only at the base & others have additional fixing lugs approx mid way across as well as through the wheels. Quite frankly although i`ve been here a couple or so years it wasn`t until this was originally mentioned that i even knew these existed.Are these worth collecting? cheers gordon
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Post by cobber on Aug 27, 2010 17:44:01 GMT 10
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Post by DC3Td on Aug 27, 2010 19:01:47 GMT 10
Hi Cobber. Some one mentioned they`d bought one for their `van & subsequently posted a picture. Blowed if i can find it now. Looked to be around 3"- 4"dia & would normally bolt to bumper bar. And no, haven`t seen (yet) any mention of caravans.cheers gordon
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Post by cobber on Aug 27, 2010 20:06:19 GMT 10
G'day Gordon, That bit on the badge is in the DHL forum (where all the good stuff is) here. It was Sportsman1 who bought that badge ........ and he did promise us a photo of an older one he has    Cobber. |
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Post by DC3Td on Aug 29, 2010 12:19:06 GMT 10
So picked up two of these badges on Friday & Saturday. One has all the enamelling intact & with side fixing lugs plus through the wheels. The other is void of enamelling (never had?) & has fixing holes only beside the shield. Interestingly enough,the obverse side shows the engraved 'wind lines' seen across & above the figure head.Given their age & condition i chose to sympathetically highlight polish only. I feel they came up looking quite nicely.   cheers gordon |
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Post by sportsman 1 on Aug 30, 2010 10:18:25 GMT 10
Hi Gordon.
I have seen a few of these around but all the ones I had seen had the two tags (ears) on them.
The one I bought on Ebay was described in the listing as Brand New but when it arrived it seemed to have been played with. The ears were missing and two holes were in the base area as per your left hand one. Also there was clear evidence of the area around where the ears were had been linished.
Perhaps the ears were found to be a weakness and were breaking off so the later badges had them linished off and the extra holes drilled? Even the holes were a little offset from centre as your one also seems to be.
I have a much earlier one on the Sportsman. It is a triangular shape with no coloring. I will try to get a picture on here asap. I hope someone out there will be able to shed some more light on these.
Cheers, Leigh.
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Post by Franklin1 on Aug 30, 2010 13:22:24 GMT 10
I've done a bit of delving into the National Library Archives, same as cobber did above, to see what else was there... Seems the Herald Touring Club was an initiative of the Melbourne "Herald and Weekly Times" newspaper. The 'Club' seems to have been involved in 'authenticating' various vehicle performance tests conducted in the 1930s. There are advertisements for Texaco fuel resulting in better time trials, faster speeds up hills, etc., which were witnessed and authorised by Herald Touring Club overseers, as this part-advertisement from Feb 1930 shows...  I have no idea when the RACV first started, so I don't know whether the HTC was the forerunner to the RACV, or whether they ran in conjunction with each other. In November 1954, the HTC held the first gathering to establish a branch in the ACT (Canberra) region, with the Canberra Times including advertisements for car insurance, touring guides, etc. provided to members by the HTC. At the Canberra meeting, some bloke was given Life Membership of the club, in recognition of his work as a representative of the club since 1940. So, the HTC was obviously a well respected and longstanding club throughout the 1930s, '40s, and at least half of the '50s. Should be plenty of those badges still around from all of that time period (?). cheers, Al. |
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Post by sportsman 1 on Aug 30, 2010 15:19:40 GMT 10
Same info I got off Trove.
Seems we need to speak to some older folk who were actually involved at the time.
The R A C V were a separate entity and they started around 1903ish. The R A C V has its own Caravan Club which BobT has an involvement with.
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Post by cobber on Aug 30, 2010 15:25:01 GMT 10
G'day all, Again from a “Trove” search. The “Herald Road Guide” published in 1929..... no mention of a club so maybe that happened in 1929 or 1930.  I have a similar book published in 1925 and there is no mention of clubs or CARAVANS in it either. click here to see the "Evening News Motorist Guide". And NO AL..... I haven't had it since new  Cobber. |
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Post by Franklin1 on Aug 30, 2010 16:41:17 GMT 10
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Post by DC3Td on Aug 30, 2010 21:20:19 GMT 10
Hello Leigh. I notice re the pic of yours that (quite rightly) the 'wind lines' can readily be seen thru the enamel where as mine doesn`t. Guessing these subtle differences denote a specific period / decade. Either way, still very nice badges when all said & done. cheers gordon
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Post by Don Ricardo on Aug 30, 2010 23:13:10 GMT 10
Same info I got off Trove. Seems we need to speak to some older folk who were actually involved at the time. The R A C V were a separate entity and they started around 1903ish. The R A C V has its own Caravan Club which BobT has an involvement with. Hi all, The RACV commenced as the Automobile Club of Victoria in January 1904. Members who joined before 1 March 1904 were exempted from the two guinea entrance fee. Looks like we all missed out... The RACV Caravan Club was formed in April 1937 click here. Don Ricardo |
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Post by sportsman 1 on Aug 31, 2010 7:46:31 GMT 10
Just wondering Gordon,
my badge has been infilled with what looks like ordinary paint. I see the one of yours with the holes down the bottom and no ears the same as mine has no paint.
Is the other badge filled with paint or enamel? From memory the others I have seen have hard enamel type infill.
Perhaps the later? ones were not colored at all. The paint in mine is starting to flake off and the plating underneath is very shiny. This made me think it had been replated and repainted. Also my paint is very thin and his might count for the fact that the wind streaks are visible.
Cheers, Leigh.
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Post by DC3Td on Aug 31, 2010 16:44:11 GMT 10
Hello Leigh. The one without enamel upon closer inspection (magnifying glass) indicates it would more than likely have had 'ears' as there being very fine file mark lines. No indication of enamel or paint. The other is definately enamelled around outer circle,inner & the shield. cheers gordon
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Post by sportsman 1 on Sept 2, 2010 21:37:44 GMT 10
Hi all, here is the picture of the earlier version of the Herald Touring Club badge. No one seems to know anything about this one!  Over to you lot Cheers, leigh. |
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