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Post by yellowuki on May 17, 2009 13:30:51 GMT 10
Hey all, I asked this question in the Nationals thread but I thought I'd ask it better here ;D A number of people from the Latrobe valley 48' to 84' Holden club have 1960's cars with early 70's caravans painted to match the tow cars (mostly Ehs or Ejs). Some of the vans are fitted out to 60's style inside. Anyhow, a couple of them have asked me about tagging along to the nationals next year, what do I tell them??? While their vans aren't technically vintage their rigs are?  ? Don't want to discourage anyone unneccessarily! Cheers, Yellowuki ;D  |
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Post by cobber on May 17, 2009 14:08:59 GMT 10
G'day Yellowuki,
Personally I can't see a problem there..... it is a caravan park and we don't own it.
It would be good to see the park full of people who have an interest in old cars and caravans.... tell 'em they're very welcome.
Cobber.
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Post by JBJ on May 17, 2009 18:22:00 GMT 10
Hi Yellowuki,
They reckon its a fine line between pleasure & pain.
My thoughts with pre & post 1970 vans.
Same thing with replica?/modern?/genuine?/ teardrops. The reason I dont include vans is that not many would try to build a replica ply or alumium van. I know Reddo had one & sold it a while back, but it really wasn't an attempt at a replica to my mind.
We've had this argument many times on the Forum.
My thoughts are pretty well known, as I've been known to say what I think ( just occassionly). But as it boils down to me , if someone wants to be part of us,provided they fit into the group they are with at the time, & believe in the same ideals we all seem to believe in, then what the hell does it really matter what they tow?
If they are brave enough to cop the crap we will give them for turning up in a later model van, & still want to be part of us, then I say let them. If they are serious about old vans, they will go and find/buy/rebuild one for themselves.
Anyway as usual that just my 10 cents woth.
JBJ
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 12:05:32 GMT 10
The "classic caravan" forum has shown there's alot of interest in 1970 to 1979 caravans. So, yeah, they're welcome to join us at the nationals  , why not The site of a nice 1970's Millard or similar being towed by a car of a similar period is heaps more pleasant than a modern 4WD towing one of those monster white box looking things  Really, its a bit like the FE/FC Holden club inviting the FB/EK Holden club to join them on one of their runs ....... I'm not a member of the 'classic caravan' forum, and Ditzy is no longer the "god(ess)" ;D of the forum, so we should request the forum moderators to do a formal invitation via their forum. Amusing isn't it ......alot of older caravans parks have 1970's scattered everywhere, old on site vans, and 1970's vans belonging to permanent residents with the built on solid annexes. Personally, if the 'classics' do join us at Mildura, I would like to see the vintage vans camped together, and the classic caravans camped together, only from a visual point of view  , but I wouldn't dare suggest that Mark  |
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Post by Daggsey on May 18, 2009 19:04:53 GMT 10
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Post by firefighter on May 18, 2009 19:21:24 GMT 10
Hey Daggsey you wrote ............it's about the people "me think your have got this one wrong this time" this forum and the classic forum is about caravans f/f ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 19:53:34 GMT 10
Hi Mark.. Can i just drive my car to Mildura and park in front of one of those permanent classic vans and pretend i own it ? I would save a fortune on fuel and i would have dozens of them to choose from. Come to think of it i could do that at every caravan park i stop at on the way down too. I am envious that there is so many still out there serving the permanents in caravan parks. So many to choose from. They are already parked in the one area so we have already got them segregated from the vintage caravans.. Not that i would suggest that either. Yep ... sounds like a great idea. Ummmmm... my vote dont count . i have already stated months ago i wont be going to the 2010 nats Reddo |
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Post by atouchofglass on May 18, 2009 20:06:23 GMT 10
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Post by fcdriver on Dec 28, 2009 20:18:52 GMT 10
Hi All,
For many reasons I have sold our 1965 PIXIE.
we now have a 1972 Vicount caravan.
I have used it whilst working away from home and on tour.
Yes there is a place for these vans as they are classic, however if the classic vans are displayed at a meeting with the vintage vans I feel thet they should be displayed in a group away from the vintage vans. I for one miss the fellowship with the VVers.
Say next year at Coledale some of us bought our classic vans along, it should be understood that classic vans all park together at say the Northern end of the caravan park. I agree with Reddo that there are many classic vans still around, just like the one I own ant they are common. I for one would not like to mix classic and vintage vans side by side at public displays. Also I for one would love to attend Coledale with our classic.
Just my thoughts
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Post by cobber on Dec 29, 2009 7:51:21 GMT 10
G'day Bruce, I hear what you and Mark are saying and I would like to see it happen.....in fact I would take it a step further and say..... for display purposes... it would look good if plywoods .... aluminiums..and fibreglass 'vans could group separately, the fibreglass lads tend to do that at Coledale already. But.... it ain't going to happen...... for a whole host of reasons that I have just tried to put into words.... and decided I better not  Cobber. |
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Post by Roehm3108 on Dec 29, 2009 11:46:28 GMT 10
I go with Daggsey on this - VV get-togethers are about people, not displaying our vans in certain orders! For whom? I go to enjoy myself, not to worry about setting the vans up in brand or typeof finish order so that joe public can have a perve! Next we'll be talking about not having modern towcars next to our vans again Ray |
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Post by kaybee on Dec 29, 2009 12:35:58 GMT 10
I go with Daggsey on this - VV get-togethers are about people, not displaying our vans in certain orders! For whom? I go to enjoy myself, not to worry about setting the vans up in brand or typeof finish order so that joe public can have a perve! Next we'll be talking about not having modern towcars next to our vans again Ray ....yep.....exactly.... |
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Post by Cruz on Dec 29, 2009 18:34:06 GMT 10
Please don't force all the Bondy's together. I could end up next to Reddo at an event all that booze and good times,just not my scene.
Cruz
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 19:38:05 GMT 10
Your safe Cruz.. I am not going. Reddo |
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 29, 2010 11:09:08 GMT 10
G'day All, Yesterday I completed the restoration of a 1977 Millard pop-top caravan. Yep, one of those dreaded "Classic" vans.  My partner and I, and the dog, would like to take the van on its maiden voyage, and attend the Vintage Nationals if it's possible at this very late stage. We are more than happy to be located away from the Vintage line-up so we don't contaminate the gene pool. We can do our own little "meander on the Murray" each day from our van to the marquis tent.  My partner and I were both born well and truly in the Vintage era, if that's any consolation to people, although the dog is a 'modern'. I know the Classic vans are not everyone's cuppa tea, however if you've never actually seen a restored Classic, you might just be curious enough to read the following story... We bought this van two years ago to help out a relative who was down on their luck and needing somewhere to stay. My contribution to the cause was to fix the van up so it was livable. As you know with these restorations, the more you pull apart the more problems expose themselves. After dismantling a fair bit of the van, it became readily obvious that major surgery was required. Then the relative dropped a bombshell and said they'd decided to head down another path in life, leaving us holding the 'bathwater'. What to do?? Got a van in pieces clogging up the garage. Can't sell it. Can't get rid of it. Hmmm...problems, problems.  I decided to bite the bullet, and do a "ground-up" restoration. Partly for the "fun of it", partly for the experience of actually doing a full restoration, and partly to see what burning $20 notes actually felt like. The van looked like this when we bought it off ebay...  ...Then it looked like this...  ...And then it came back to looking like this...   The most challenging part of the restoration ended up being me learning how to sew a new canvas skirt for the pop-top. Lots of canvas was scrapped until I worked out what the heck I was supposed to be doing. The biggest regret was using the cheap, crappy spraypaint on the panels. This will have to be redone in the not too distant future. But overall, I was pretty pleased with the outcome for a first-timer. Shame it's not a Vintage Van though, eh?!! -------------------------------------------------- So, back to the Nationals. Is it ok for us to attend at this late stage? Do we just ring and book a spot away from the VVers? We are hoping to arrive on the Monday 8th and leave the following weekend. Then we are going to make our way down to Ballarat for a number of days so I can do a bit of research into the early Franklin caravan history. Then it'll be to go over through Melbourne to the east coast and back up home again. Any help, firefighter?? ps. I'm not into cars, so we tow with a 'modern'. [Sheesh, that's two strikes...a classic van and a modern towcar. Maybe the nearest we'll get to the Nationals is the Victorian border! ]cheers, Al. |
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Post by sportsman 1 on Apr 29, 2010 12:51:17 GMT 10
Hey Al,
WHAT A PEARLER OF A VAN YOU HAVE CREATED FOR YOURSELF. (and the next lucky bugger who gets it in the future)
Regardless of whether you like "modern" vans or not (just for the record I don't) you have to admire anyone who does a job like that. Same with cars, a particular car may not be to your liking but you can still admire it for its condition, rarity, whatever.
At the very least now you have practiced with that one you can get into a real VV for your next project.
I look forward to seeing it in the flesh, and if you are not at the nationals then you are welcome at my place anytime!
Cheers, leigh.
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Post by dragonfly on Apr 29, 2010 13:22:09 GMT 10
Hi Al,
my 2cents worth is that if you have an interest in VV you SHOULD be at the Nat's, no mater what you bring. (even a Jayco). however please bring a thick skin and a sence of humor. (oh thats not a threat by the way). If you ever need any help in Ballarat I live near by.
love you work on the Milard.!
Dragonfly Dave
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Post by Don Ricardo on Apr 29, 2010 21:30:18 GMT 10
G'day Al, What a great job you've done on your classic Millard! There are number of people coming to the Nationals who do not have vintage vans, either because they are friend of a V V'er or they have an interest in V V's and want to check them out. So on that basis alone, you are very welcome to attend. As much as possible I think the plan is to ask non-V V's to set up camp in a separate section but you have said you are OK with that. But there is a second very good reason why you don't even need to ask: You have made a significant contribution to the Down History Lane section, and it will be great to meet you face to face. So, you will be extra welcome at Mildura...and besides I seem to remember that you do have a V V Franklin, even if it's not coming with you... Don Ricardo |
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 29, 2010 22:48:14 GMT 10
G'day Leigh, Dave, and Don Ricardo, Thank you all for your positive comments. ;D Yes, I do have a vintage caravan. Two in fact. The Franklin (which I'm now convinced is of Gason origin), and a Castle. Two years ago, the Franklin restoration had commenced, when the Millard came along and turned everything upside down. The Franklin was shelved, and the Castle continues to deteriorate day by day in the backyard. I'm aiming to go down to Ballarat to talk with the Historical Society down there, to see where I might find info about the start of the Franklin business. Vantoura says it was in 1952; an article I found in a Sydney newspaper archive says 1951; and the Franklin I've got is supposedly the first one made in 1956. So, what's the truth?? That's what I'm hoping to find out. Plus anything else about the early years of the Franklin era. When I return home after this trip away, I intend to pick up where I left off with the Franklin restoration. It is a similar ground-up restoration as the Millard, although hopefully not as complex. The Millard was always thought of as good practice for the Franklin. That's the only thing that kept me going on occasions. Look forward to catching up with you all. cheers, Al. |
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Post by Jennison on Apr 30, 2010 10:35:08 GMT 10
Few have provided as much help, information and assistance in identification on VVs on this forum as you Al, very glad you are coming along and we'll meet you at last
regards
jennison
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Post by firefighter on Apr 30, 2010 13:30:38 GMT 10
G,Day Al Mark made a posting some time back saying Classis vans were welcome to attend the Nationals at Mildura ...and I remember you or atog made a posting on our sister forum Classic vans saying that classic were welcome to attend the nationals .........so........ see you there Bit late posting a reply Al .........Just returned home this afternoon from taking the Murray meanders out for tea last night to the V V C club.... club rooms in bendigo....where the club put a nice tea on for the meanders I passed them all this morning heading for the restorers barn in Castlemaine and then they were going to look at a restored camper trailer on T Ford Wheels made in 1924 after this they were going to Lake Goldsmith for the weekend Humpty 2 was leading the group with his latest vintage van that he stole from under our noses in victoria f/f ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 30, 2010 20:38:19 GMT 10
Hey f/f, thanks for that info. ;D
It's obvious I could have made my question a lot clearer. I was trying to suss out whether there was any room left at the park, rather than seeking permission. On the Nats thread you said there'd been 60 bookings, and I wondered whether the park might be chockers.
I wasn't aware that a number of other non-V.V'ers were attending, until DonR pointed that out above. I think I'm the only one from the Classic forum, as far as I know. The 60 bookings relates to only Vintage vans, yes?
Anyway, all is good. I'll go ahead and book a site with the other non-V.V vans.
See you there! ;D ;D
cheers,
Al.
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Post by firefighter on Apr 30, 2010 22:08:23 GMT 10
G,Day Al The plan the park sent me shows 203 sites......so I don't think we will run out of sites .......But a modern caravan club from Newcastle is also booked in at the same time as us and will be having 12 sites .........the Newcastle mob will be in a different part of the park from us So if any body else would like to attend the nationals .........come on up f/f ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by firefighter on Apr 30, 2010 22:16:35 GMT 10
Marks posting about classic caravans vans attending the nationals The "classic caravan" forum has shown there's alot of interest in 1970 to 1979 caravans. So, yeah, they're welcome to join us at the nationals , why not The site of a nice 1970's Millard or similar being towed by a car of a similar period is heaps more pleasant than a modern 4WD towing one of those monster white box looking things Really, its a bit like the FE/FC Holden club inviting the FB/EK Holden club to join them on one of their runs ....... I'm not a member of the 'classic caravan' forum, and Ditzy is no longer the "god(ess)" of the forum, so we should request the forum moderators to do a formal invitation via their forum. Amusing isn't it ......alot of older caravans parks have 1970's scattered everywhere, old on site vans, and 1970's vans belonging to permanent residents with the built on solid annexes. Personally, if the 'classics' do join us at Mildura, I would like to see the vintage vans camped together, and the classic caravans camped together, only from a visual point of view , but I wouldn't dare suggest that Mark Sorry Al I just work it out that you post on the thread that mark posted his bit about the classic at the nationals f/f ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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