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Post by belinda on Apr 26, 2006 19:11:26 GMT 10
While all you guys were living it up at Morgan I was doing a university residential school at Armidale. I did think of you all, particularly guessing it was no doubt a lot warmer in S.A.
While I was away Rob took the boys camping for a few days at Rylstone (just over the Blue Mountains). The first night it was minus four and the other two nights weren't much warmer, but Rob discovered a great way of keeping cosy even in a single-skinned ply van.
He packed the trusty Monier Crock Pot (leftover from the seventies and obtainable in most op-shops) and made a vat of porridge overnight. It gave off a steady heat all night and everyone had their favourite breakfast each morning.
This technique was also a lot safer than the suggestion I saw in one of the Keith Winser books to keep a van warm by leaving the toaster on and open all night!
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Post by humpty2 on Apr 29, 2006 19:42:29 GMT 10
Hard to go past the oil filled column heater. You can leave them on all night.......themostat control.NO naked flames or elements!!. We have the smallest available (3 columns I think) and it works great.........Hmmmmmn, kerosine alley at Coledale.....any one got a 300 ft extension lead
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Post by Jim on May 2, 2006 11:03:29 GMT 10
I find fan heaters are great for instant heat but I also find the drying effect in a small space often means a headache. The fan, quiet as some are, can make sleeping that little more difficult. As safe as they may be I just don’t like the idea of an exposed element when it’s not under ‘conscious supervision’ (That’s the toaster thing as well I guess)
We once resorted to leaving one of the stove gas jets burning when we found the heater in a camper we hired didn’t work. It was minus 6C in southern Tasmania and it seemed the lesser of the evils – stay warm or freeze to death.
Why be in Tasmania in the middle of winter – one might ask? Apart from off season prices being very cheap (affordable), the roads not being cluttered with tourists and having most of the attractions without crushing crowds, I’ve often wondered about that myself.
As Hump says, oil filled column heaters are silent and don’t dry the air, they just take a little longer to get going. I guess that’s the same principle as the porridge in the crockpot.
Extension leads On special at Bunnings mate. 4 x 25 mt should do it.. Dunno how many volts you might get out the other end but you can bet it won’t be 240.
JB Maybe you should revisit porridge.. There’s a lot of things I didn’t like as a kid that are ok now.. Remember girl germs, peanut butter and Brussels sprouts?
Which reminds me of the riddle.. “What’s the difference between Brussels sprouts and snot?”
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Post by Jim on May 2, 2006 11:04:49 GMT 10
They might both contain vitamin C, folate, beta carotene, vitamin E and iron, but you can’t get kids to eat Brussels sprouts (boom boom!)
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2006 13:42:12 GMT 10
Oooooooohhhhh Mmmmmyyyy GGgaaaawwwwddd Hand me the smelling salts Cynthia....i just past out. What am i reading here??? Crock pots, oil heaters, fan heaters, Kero heaters, extension leads? what next.... electric blankets. I am ashamed of the lot of you Your pioneering grandparents will be throwing up about now . And you call ya'selves "Vintage Vanners" HHHmmmmmmpppphhhh> You all oughta hang ya heads in shame. Shame, shame, shame says Derron hinch.... and rightly so i say. Sensitive New Age Tarts .. More like it I ask you , what is wrong with good old Hot water bottles??? .... NO ... Ok then , Hows about .... Extra blankets..... NO ... Ok then . Hows about sharing body heat.... NO .... what are yas gay or sumfin??? . Even dirty old men need lovin girls.!!! Righto then rather than stand by and watch yas all perish in 20 degree temperatures I will let yas in on a surefire way of keepin warm in the winter while vint vanning. Gather around kiddies and ya old Unc Reddo will clue yas up. Firstly.... cruise on around to the local hound pound. Shell out a few bucks for 6 of the fluffiest, biggest mutts ya can find . Load em into the van and head off campin. Just before ya head off to bed grab each dog and give it a big squeeze to get all the Pal dog food puppy farts out of him. Then stuff him in ya swag. repeat this six times until all the pooches are empty. Pack each hound strategically in place allowing you room to slot in between them all. End result is a good night sleep. ;D I feel i should warn you this cure to sleep apthnea has its downside. You wake up smellin like dog crap, you have an uncontrollable urge to lick your "private bits", ya spend a lot of time tryin to scratch behind your ear with your foot and its bloody hard to resist "cocking your leg" on the neighbours Sunliner ;D ;D ;D So... there ya go kiddies. leave all those new fangle electrical crap at home and get out there and enjoy your pets. Oh and buy the way.... Porridge tasted like poop when i was a kid and it aint changed in 50 years. Mind you it makes good body filler for caravan repair work or stickin up wall paper. definitely does not cut the mustard as a food product. Reddo - from the far side ......of course
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Post by Jim on May 2, 2006 17:28:48 GMT 10
Now Reddo..
I don’t know how you can be so basic and so critical of essentials..
Happy caravanning is indeed a matter of basics but there has to be some degree of comfort and you completely ignored the benefits of Brussels sprouts..
Porridge is for refined people I suppose, so it doesn't suit everyone - after all, just ask Ronnie Barker..
I’ve just been negotiating to have a Rainbow LSD-35/12 pure sine wave invertor fitted in my 28 Eccles Aristocrat so I can run the four stage triple control Cinderella Comfy-Co electric blanket (model Sin/4-3) complimented with a Omicron Royal Cloud Faux Fur Ménage-à-Trois Queen Bed blanket throw.
The invertor should marry nicely with the bank of Optima FBB deep cycles (Marry, who said that?) and the FaT-5 UPS (although we’ve gone for the mid range VSG-3 series rather than the heavy duty top of the range VSK-4 series)
It’s always handy to have the batteries mounted in FSB Raylite boxes of course (as you know), and have a BAX-011 on hand for little emergencies.
It will mean settling for the Sony SG-747 100 CD stacker instead of the SG-949 200 model as a space saving measure.
For the same reason the Q-Mac ASL-6 400 channel HF will replace the larger Codan 1433-2. I know it means dropping 150 channels but we will manage somehow, and it still maintains the ASS-me69 automatic self-seek antenna (A very horny unit indeed!)
The good thing is there’s still enough room for the CAT-5 data line surge protection system (a PoE with 10BasE-T merge variation) but Clipsal Cat:M -57 manual touch switches will have to used in place of the Cat:A- 94 motion detecting units.
The good thing is the back-to-base Piranha IMA-Dk-H alarm system still works satisfactorily with this arrangement. (This model is the latest unit designed by Richard Cranium)
There’s still the question of the Luxor 9725 7.1 surround system with the Nakamishi CM99 52 inch LCD.. Do you think that’s overkill or not in an Aristocrat?
I still haven’t decided on which combination Sat-P/Sat-na/HF-t/HF-r/GSM antenna to use yet (with signal splitters and filters, of course). It will have to fit in with the SOL-K500GT Kyocera 500W Grid Connect Solar Panels of course. One hopes they will run a crock pot, but who knows..
Any recommendations anyone?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2006 19:58:10 GMT 10
Bbbbbbblllllllooooodyyyy Helllllllllll Ok then smarty bum go an hook up all that new fangle stuff .. By the sound of all those lecktonic gismos they should draw enough amps to blow you and your astronaut .... ooops sorry aristocrat space module into the next mellinium. But hey look on the bright side with global warming goin the way things are the next mellinium will be much , much warmer and ya wont need ya bloody Cinderalla phase 4 blanket there old China.....Noooo sireee Bob......... how do i know all this technuckle stuff??? Its easy I have just been and seen "Ice Age 2" ;D Hmmmm .....if ya plan on bringin that stuff to Munmorah campin ground i better ring the power station and tell em to bring another turbine on line. I think the place is good for about 330 megawatts. you might have to run a lead over the fence to the neighbours place to run the elludium Pu 33 space modulator upper and lower side band wattsy. Me ... i'll be takin the pot belly stove , hot water bottle, six old english sheep dogs as swag liners, metho stove, malleys esky full of beer and ice as well as a hip flask of my own style of "rocket fuel" plus a miners lamp me and grandad usta use for prawnin'. The whole freakin show can blow up and black out leaving all you sensitive new space age campin junkies in total darkness. Me... Well i'll just stoke up the pot belly , turn the wick up on the tilly lamp, sink a few rums, squeeze all the farts out of the sheepdogs and we'll be off to bed...... No wuckers. Ohh bye the way..... just watch ya sunliner wheels in the morning. Brussel sprouts? ? Tasted like Sh#t when i was a kid.... and they still do . Would rather eat a plate full of frogs vomit when i was 6. Bloody "Crockpots"... the bloody lot of ya's are "Crackpots" Reddontcomethatnancycampincrapwithme
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2006 13:48:34 GMT 10
Now, now, now Col. Dont go talkin' about brother Jim like that. Knowin' him he willl probably have a 'lecktronic gadjet that sniffs the paint for him. I've been given his campin' gismos ideas a bit of thought.. .. Then i suddenly realised that there was a few reasons why he turned up at Morgan with a tent. ;D 1. He woulda needed something like a fargo fifth wheeler to cart all the sparky new age camping bits. 2. "The bloody ferry would have sunk comin across the murray with all that gear onboard" 3. The main circuit breaker at the park is only rated at 500 amps. Also note : I spoke with the van park owner at Wakerie when i was considering bookin the Toyota in for a service at the local tojo shop.. She stated that they had three power outages over the easter break. All due to people..... "Getting away from it all... and .... bringing it all with them" 1 site had: Fridge, 2 element stove with oven (electric), Air cond, 2 fan heaters, ( how's our allocated 15 amps per site lookin now fellow campers) electric blankets, 2 - TVs, 1 play station 2, a toaster, a jug , a coffee purculator, about 4 fluoro lights...and wait for it belinda and Rod..... Yes..... a crockpot. all purring away at the one time Enough to send the street lights dim right across South Australia Struth Ruth.....A bloody crockpot..... whatever happened to cast iron camp ovens and jaffle irons And they have the hide to say they are "CAMPING" I mean like.... Jeez Louise whats this world coming to. Reddo
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Post by bigdidda on May 4, 2006 16:02:19 GMT 10
I dont think there is any need to panic. I understand Melbourne had rain recently and that could be the reason Jim appears to have had a Julius Sumner Miller attack. ;D don
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Post by Franklin1 on May 4, 2006 23:50:57 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2006 9:29:34 GMT 10
Ahhh yes.
But will the bed warmer bring the paper in for you of a morning. Does the bed warmer attack people trying ta steal your van in the middle of the night???
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Post by humpty2 on May 5, 2006 19:57:39 GMT 10
Taking my "vintage" bed warmer to Munmorah with me.......and she gets up and gets me coffee in the morning ;D
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Post by Jim on May 7, 2006 14:52:25 GMT 10
Here’s a real vintage bed warmer but it may not be as attractive as some of the other bed warmers mentioned and it doesn’t make the tea and toast in the morning either. It is quiet though and only needs a feed of hot water before going to bed. It’s a Sunshine brand so it has to be good. Has anyone any idea how old it is?
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Post by belinda on Jul 5, 2006 20:05:56 GMT 10
We were away in the van last weekend about 20km from the nearest power point, so the CrockPot trick wasn't going to work.
Instead I filled the Thermos before we left home and on arrival made up hot water bottles for each of the kids. The boys got tucked into bed and went to Noddyland while Rob and I put the annexe up and slept outside - OK, but not the best.
As well as the hot water bottles, we put reflective panels in both the front and back windows (the sort that go across windscreens) and these alse helped keep the kids warm inside the van.
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Post by humpty2 on Jul 9, 2006 20:36:24 GMT 10
Just spent the weekend in Tamworth NSW, at MINUS 6 degrees .Had no trouble keeping warm...............electric blanket on full, oil column heater on full and 2 doonas.........plus snuggled up to vintage heater??. By the way got front page on the Northern Daily Leader with Spyders van in the background. We pushed Troy Cassar- Daley to page 3......thats big in Tamworth!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2006 15:24:14 GMT 10
Humpty Dawson??? Slim Dumpty?? Chad Humpty, Speed Humpty?? Onya fellas...... Did Spyder expose is hairy legs for the Tamworth press..... Thier famous ya know folks.
Reddo ... - 6 ... bugger that for a joke.
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Post by Roehm3108 on Jul 10, 2006 17:34:49 GMT 10
A bloke stays away from the vv site for a couple of months and what happens, they all turn into flaming electronic geniasses!!! Jailbar, the reason I think Sue bought one of those fan heaters for her side is probably because she know you're taking care of heating up your side of the bed on your very own. I heard on the grapevine you are still eating those Mexican beans every night Now she warms up her side and clears the air as well - very clever Sue!! Jim - Your setup sounds vantastic. Where-abouts can I buy all those goodies to warm up my Propert? ? Is it the same shop that sells those skyhooks to stabilise the caravans? ?? Reddo - you will find that in the size van you're having, only two dogs are necessary, otherwise you'll die in there! Ray
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2006 19:04:22 GMT 10
Ray. I protested long and hard when i seen these outlandish remedies for vintage vanner chillblains. Its a bloody disgrace the way these sensitive new age vanners are carrying on. Waddid they usta do B4 'lectricity came along. 240 or 12 volt...... i dont care ..... its an unecessary evil in vintage vans. What ever happened to the good old fashion "Tapping her on the shoulder and throwin the leg over for a bit of " Horizontal folk dancin'" to keep each other warm Howin the hell didja think mum and dad got the tag of "baby Boomers" Could be minus 20 outside but if you and the bride are havin "A good Time" :-*chances are the blankets would have been tossed away ages ago and all the jubbly bits have been exposed to the - 6 without even noticing. However.........for those of us that are cronically married this activity is not always an option...... wellllll mostly not an option. Andddd.... even if we are both consenting with our minds sayin'.... yes. yes, yes. The thought of peelin away at three pair of tracky daxs and 4 jumpers to get to the " good bits" sometimes is just enough to dampen a young blokes thoughts of "scoring" and the mind drifts off to less pleasant things like ..... ummmmmmmmmmm.... fibreglass caravans ;D ;D ;D ;D Just checked the heatin' injuneers manual 1 Jack Russell generates 6 degrees. 6 Old English sheep dogs ( with farts expelled and packed properly in a single swag) generates 28 degrees. So working on this theory me 'n' the mutts are sleeping at the same temp that Cairns enjoys as an average all year round climate...... Bloody bewdy mate .... Mind you its a lot slobberier (ooooooh look i just invented a new word) and smellier ( that's 2 new words for the english dictionary in less than 10 seconds) than sleeping with one J. Russell. Now if ya will excuse me Trish has just walked past in Ugg boots, red checked flanno and a neck to knee lama jumper and Newcastle knights beany......... Cooooorrrr she knows how to excite me. Reddoinhisbestonightfolks ;D
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Post by trodler on Jul 10, 2006 20:22:08 GMT 10
Reddo Wasnt that you the other weekend at Blacktown, sleeping in the back of the ute with a 240v cable in the back and a small electric heater attached.
Cheers. Trodler.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2006 8:42:29 GMT 10
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo .....BUGGER...... SPRUNG BIG TIME FOLKS.
However, i have a perfectly logical/ legitimate explanation.
I was camping in the back of a 1998 commodore ute with canopy. Therefore this is not classed as "Vintage vanning holiday/camping" and the use of a fan heater is an acceptable form of climate control in a vehicle of this age.... I rest my case and i claim immunity .
Reddo, Reddo and Reddo solicitors at Law.
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Post by trodler on Jul 11, 2006 21:10:37 GMT 10
Hi V V For originallity you cant go past a Halfords kerosene heater. The flame heats up the mesh to create a larger heating area. Cheers. Trodler.
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Post by bigdidda on Jul 12, 2006 8:09:20 GMT 10
Trodler, I think those Halford heaters were for keeping engine sumps warm in English winters so they should keep a van warm. However are they very fumey and can you put kero in a parrafin heater like this one i bought. regards don
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Post by qug1 on Aug 29, 2006 1:27:35 GMT 10
I live half the time in an uninsulated van(1950s Globe) in Tassie . It's got down to minus three inside, -4 or -5 i dare say when I havent emerged to monitor the thermometer. I love it -hurrah for frosty mornings and picturesque ice. I have a good(moth eaten hand-me-down)thick woollen duffel coat which i swan around in in winter, going for a walk before bed time to warm up and then having a jumper to drape around the back of my head in bed are the three main techniques i use to stay warm. Mind you acclimatising to cold makes one boil over when visiting friends in heated houses.
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Post by belinda on Mar 18, 2007 16:17:31 GMT 10
The 1956 edition of "The Caravan Manual" (English) has a whole section on solid fuel heaters for caravans - what we would call "cosy stoves". It says: "While quite a large number of all-the-year-round caravanners choose oil for heating, and some manage with gas, it is the opinion of the majority that there is nothing to equal a solid fuel stove fore heating in real winter, and this type is fitted in the majority of living vans."There are at least three illustrations of different fuel stoves in vans. In this one the stove has an airing cupboard above.
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