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Post by stephen&Julie on Jun 12, 2013 13:08:27 GMT 10
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Post by seeshell on Jun 12, 2013 13:19:58 GMT 10
Hello All, Another Jennison! Goodness gracious - how many does that make in the last wee while? I count the large one in VIC at the caravan yard from 1958-1962, the 1930s pop top, and now this President model from 1964. Well I guess it's like they say, "It never rains, but it pours". I wonder if *somebody* is doing a happy dance with the discovery of another bit of family history?  Cheers Seeshell |
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Post by isambard on Jun 12, 2013 13:38:44 GMT 10
lovely! can't beat a Jennison, (or Roadmaster, or Globe Trotter  ) IMHO. well done  |
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Post by Jennison on Jun 12, 2013 13:42:27 GMT 10
Way to go steve and Julie!!!!!
Its amazing that when the jenno with shower turned up Andrew |"keepsake" said to me that now we will find three in short order. and we did!!!
looking forward to photos and will you be able to grill their father on his factory days?
well done
jenno
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Post by Geoff & Jude on Jun 12, 2013 13:52:37 GMT 10
hi seeshell and jenno and stephen and julie we were a bit disappointed when we didn't bother to ask jenno how much he wanted for the shower jennison before it was sold, but now that they're as common as cow dung we don't feel so bad.  congrats stephen and julie for the find and hope it all works out for you both.  geoff 'n jude |
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Post by akeepsake on Jun 12, 2013 14:48:58 GMT 10
Great find guys ! Told ya jeff |
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Post by stephen&Julie on Jun 12, 2013 20:12:12 GMT 10
Hi all,
Sorry Jenno, the present owner is quite old and his father passed away in the 70's, he has the original paperwork and heaps of photos, he will look for the keys to the van so i can get some pics next week and he will also look for any info on his fathers time at the factory, he says the van is in good condition on the inside with all the original features, his fathers sir name was Woodward till next week
Cheers S&J
ps: all the wheels are under the house
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Post by Jennison on Jun 12, 2013 21:49:08 GMT 10
What is most exciting for me is the chance in the future of a few jennisons together at the nats one year or at any other event for that matter ;D ;D ;D ;D
Its a "Pym" model and at 1964 I think it would be just before they started badge engineering franklins.(I am sure Al will know one way or the other)
There was a 30? foot president for sale some yrs back near Kazanadams....bloody huge!
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Post by smiles on Jun 12, 2013 22:25:44 GMT 10
Geez it seems like one only has to meet up with the Most Venerable Master of Reddotel for some of the old magic to rub off.
Looks like the Reddotel indicator switch has got frozen on Jennison vans though.
First we met up with the Master for the blessed Toads n Roaches tour then quickly unearthed the Jennison pop-top in the Tenterfield Highlands.
Now the gold dust has rubbed off on Stephen n Julie & they're about to uncover a Jennison President!
Be careful folks if you've had only brief encounters with the Master of Reddotel himself, cos you might be about to discover a Jennison speedboat lurking in a backyard pool soon!
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Post by stephen&Julie on Jun 13, 2013 19:43:09 GMT 10
Jenno,
I see the Pym model must relate to Dick Pym who sold vans, as per ad, did he also design vans as well?
S&J
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Post by Jennison on Jun 13, 2013 22:20:09 GMT 10
Hi there, Dick bought the business after my grandad died. He continued with JAJs' pathfinder "shape" till the early 60s' ( the 17' with shower I bought, we pretty accurately placed as a 1960/62 model and may well have been one of the last of those. ) By the late 60s' he was badge engineering them. In the intervening period (63 to 67?) it seems to me a fairly safe bet that he may have had a crack at designing and marketing his own design till he realised he could not compete with the modern mass produced vans that were starting to be rolled out in large numbers by the late 60s' forcing him to turn to the badge engineering to stay viable. As I hinted in the previous post Franklin 1 may be able to help there. If he does not recognise the president as an engineered franklin then logically it must surely be a "pym" designed Jennison which would make it a very rare beast in its own right given "they" would have been made only for a very short time ....say 63 to 67 at a guess.(maybe less??!!) Unfortunately Dick Pyms sons were not very helpfull or interested when I tracked them down some years back  and Dick himself had died only 2 months before I made contact  jenno |
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Post by Franklin1 on Jun 13, 2013 23:35:05 GMT 10
G'day Jeff,
I've been trying to reply with some archive information, but Photobucket is not working for me tonight for some reason.
From my collected history, the Pathfinder President model was first advertised in October 1963, and continued to be advertised until around April 1967.
In November 1967, Pathfinder started to advertise themselves as "Pathfinder and Franklin" (same old address), and a few months later in March 1968, Pathfinder is listed in a Franklin corporate advertisement as an "authorised distributor" of Franklin caravans.
So, what to make of all of that? My guess is they stopped making their own caravans around the second half of 1967, and progressively made the change to become a Franklin distributor. From what I can see, no vans were ever "rebadged", so the President is made by Pathfinder.
When the President model was first advertised in '63, the advertisement copy read, "Australia's Quality Aluminium Caravan, with the latest U-shaped lounge, and many other improvements exclusive to Jennison models. See special display models 15ft and 19ft at reduced prices."
It will be interesting to see the inside of this President van to see if it has the U-shaped lounge.
In August 1966, the President model got new features: "...a rear-loading "boot", COOLITE insulation, aluminium frame, and the world's largest roof hatch."
I have a newspaper photo that was published at the end of '66 showing what looks like a 15-footer. It doesn't have the same side stripes as the one above, so it looks like S&J's van might be from an earlier time.
I'll post the photo when P/b starts to cooperate again.
cheers,
Al.
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Post by Jennison on Jun 14, 2013 14:19:51 GMT 10
Well there you go S & J.
Al can back with some facts my suppositions, so 63 to 67 models must indeed be "Pym" designs!!!
Can't wait to see the inside either. I will check my emails for the photos I had of the big president
regards
and thanks Al
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Post by Franklin1 on Jun 14, 2013 21:05:35 GMT 10
Checking our DHL section for the Pathfinder vans just now, and I realise I've already posted the newspaper photos I had in my collection (although I missed the 1965 photo which I've now added in the modified post). There's some photos in that DHL thread of an estimated 1963 Pathfinder, but the side stripes match the photo of the 1965 van I've just added in. The appearance of the President model in this November '63 sketch is the closest I've seen to the one S&J has discovered...  cheers, Al. |
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Post by griffin on Jun 14, 2013 22:18:36 GMT 10
Franklin 1
This advertisement from the 1962-3 NRMA Camping and Caravan Guide is all but identical to your illustration.
And what about the reference to conversions on Commer and VW vans, there must be some of those about for someone to find.
George
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Post by Jennison on Jun 15, 2013 21:09:56 GMT 10
Looking at the 1962/3 add above..... that is a different to my/now trodlers, PF with shower so that would push it (trodlers) back to maybe 1960/61 model. The stripe is the same as in the adds. Interesting how little bits help piece the picture together.
S and J, I could not tell from your photos but I presume it has a jennison roof hatch around 3m for a van that size?
jenno
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Post by stephen&Julie on Jun 19, 2013 15:26:32 GMT 10
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Post by barkpaint on Jun 19, 2013 19:25:33 GMT 10
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Post by stephen&Julie on Jun 20, 2013 14:08:48 GMT 10
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bigkel
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Post by bigkel on Jun 20, 2013 18:38:15 GMT 10
LUCKY BXSXARD , ( TAKE THAT AS A TERM OF ENDEARMENT ) it is your turn to be lucky . mine was a few years ago with a 58 Chev .
cheers kel.
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Post by stephen&Julie on Jun 20, 2013 18:53:18 GMT 10
Hi,
Apparently the stripe's on the van were originaly grey/silver his father had then resprayed gold to match the car colour
S&J
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Post by Jennison on Jun 20, 2013 22:40:10 GMT 10
congrats and well done S & J....what a lucky break and a great combo.... not to mention story to go with it;D
6 or 8 cyl?
HK-T-G my favourite holdens and a prem to boot!!
Can't wait to see them in the flesh
jenno
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Post by Miss Molly on Jun 21, 2013 21:48:29 GMT 10
OMGoodness S&J! Can't wait to see these beauties in the flesh!
MMx
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Post by stephen&Julie on Jun 21, 2013 22:04:30 GMT 10
HK Premier 1968, with the 186 and never seen one before but comes with the opel 4 speed floor shift and limited slip diff for towing Cheers S&J |
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Post by earlee on Jun 22, 2013 20:46:00 GMT 10
I concur.... Lucky bastard!!
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) IMHO. well done 
and Dick himself had died only 2 months before I made contact 
