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Post by whippy on Apr 24, 2009 17:41:30 GMT 10
I am trying to work out the year of my Globe trotter, it is definately the same model as Cruz, she says hers is a 1958. I have wooden frames on my windows and Cruz's are aluminium. I was wondering if the chassis number gives a clue, my chassis number is 1759, there is no way they have made that many, is the 59 the year ans the 17 how many were made you that year  ?? Does anyonw know ? |
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Post by Cruz on Apr 25, 2009 17:13:41 GMT 10
Hi Whippy, Hope you find the answer .My year is only a guesstimate as no one seems to know. Cruz |
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Post by whippy on Apr 25, 2009 18:00:13 GMT 10
Hi Cruz, Does your chassis number end in 58 or 59. ?? Were the aluminium windows an original fitting??? |
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 25, 2009 22:30:21 GMT 10
Hi whippy and cruz, I will soon be putting information into the History section about annual caravan registrations in Australia for the years 1958 upwards. I can tell you that in 1958 there were 3,425 registrations; 3884 in 1959; 4360 in 1961 and so on it goes. And these figures are supposed to be Australia-wide total registration figures. So, going back to the 1958 figures...3,425 divided by the number of manufacturers around in 1958 is not a lot of vans per each one. DonR may be able to tell us how many Don caravans they were making each week to use as a guideline. Two vans per week is 100 per year. Thirty four manufacturers at that rate gives the 3400 total. So I'm guessing big time here, but it doesn't look like manufacturers were making a whole heap of vans per week back in those days. Your guess that 1759 might mean 17th van of '59 might be on the mark, but I'd be thinking that wooden windows had gone by the wayside in '59. Globetrotter might have been like Propert and just kept numbering their vans from Day 1 (When did Globetrotter start??) It's a shame 313royal is no longer on the forum. He seemed to have a fair bit of knowledge about the Globetrotters. Winterwood's got one, so check with him on the chassis number. If you know how to do a search of the forum [click on the word search at the top of the forum page], insert the word globetrotter into the 'Search for' field at the top, change the 'Posted within the last' days at the bottom to read 1000 and change the 'Maximum results' to read 100, and you will get 100 references throughout the forum that have the word globetrotter in them (...I did.) Surely there must be something in amongst that lot to help you in your search. Hope so anyway. (If not, write a letter to that MarkT fella and tell him his website's not worth a pinch o'  . No...better still, send it to reddo...you're sure to get a really funny and helpful answer in return ;D ;D) Good luck!! cheers, Al. |
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Post by Cruz on Apr 26, 2009 11:43:05 GMT 10
 Hi, Just to throw a spanner in the works my No. Is 1647
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Post by whippy on Apr 26, 2009 14:57:31 GMT 10
Thanks Al, I will do that, I am planning a trip to show the previous owner how she came up, who knows he may have some purchase documents etc.
Well Cruz that doesn't shed any light on the question of how old, but does tell me that they were sequencially numbered and yours is older than mine.
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Post by Cruz on Apr 26, 2009 19:16:44 GMT 10
Whippy,
You would think that timber windows would be older? If you check the rescued globetrotter in members photos,you will see pics of mine with original owners and alli windows.
questions more questions.
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Post by whippy on Apr 26, 2009 20:04:01 GMT 10
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 26, 2009 23:12:15 GMT 10
whippy and cruz, it's starting to look like the Globe/Globetrotter chassis numbers were continuous from Day1. forum member lacem has a "Globetrotter" that has Globe 603 on the drawbar ( Trish's Globetrotter. Aka:lacem and Globetrotter ) cruz's is 1647 whippy's is 1759 winterwood's is 2617 and was bought new in 1964 ( Chassis Number and 1964 Globe Trotter ) If we were to consider for the moment that Leanne's (cruz) windows were changed from timber to aluminium at some stage, then my theory might hold water. Does Daggsey still have a Globetrotter? Harriet's got one as well, which was bought new in 1950. Adding their chassis numbers would start to put a couple more pieces together in the jigsaw puzzle. Harriet's van had aluminium windows fitted to it when it was bought, after the owner paid extra (see Globetrotter History, Page 3). None of this is giving you the date of your vans yet, however I think we might be a little closer than we were yesterday. If we knew when Globe Caravans first started, I might be able to do some rough calculations on annual production rates and see if I can come up with a 'best guess' of your van's age. Does anybody have any early caravan books to know when Globe Caravans first kicked off? I also think Harriet's 1950 chassis number will be an important piece of the puzzle. Is he (Oops, sorry Harriet) she still with us?? cheers, Al. |
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Post by firefighter on Apr 27, 2009 7:56:50 GMT 10
  Hi Al you ask is Harriet still with us ....harriets profile shows she was on the forum 3 days ago ....also has a e mail address perhaps Wippy can e mail her jandrfitz@internode.on.net f/f ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by sportsman 1 on Apr 27, 2009 8:24:08 GMT 10
For my two bobs worth isn't it possible that during the mid to late 50's, when manufacturers were in the changeover phase from timber to ali that some may have had the option of either timber windows or ali windows depending on costs.
This would explain why a van with a "later" number could have the "earlier" style of window.
I agree that the Globetrotters have sequential numbers, we just need to narrow down the years, styles, etc. Period publications is probably the next best tool.
cheers, Leigh.
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Post by harriet on Apr 30, 2009 15:14:24 GMT 10
hi . harriet here .i have tryed to find a chassie number . all i coude find was a plate with G. S. B. 50. RANG original owner he told me it means . Globtroter . special .built .1950 .sorry it may not help but could not find any other numbers.
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Post by whippy on Apr 30, 2009 17:21:58 GMT 10
Thanks Harriet, my chassis number was found near the tow ball on both sides of the A frame. In the Franklin I found the chassis number & build date written in text on the inner front panel, as I have replaced both front & rear outer panels, I have had no such luck with the Globetrotter
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 5, 2009 10:48:30 GMT 10
Mornin' all, Beetles here. I too have a globey and dont know it's age but the number is 2813 so my guess is that it's a few years later than winterwoods.
I tried to ring royal 313 but he's out of mobile range on a car tour of S.A. Maybe later.
Last night I got a call from a bloke who has a globey to give away so I'm off to look at it this weekend I hope. I will check the numbers.
He told someone he was gonna burn it and she said NO ring Graham ,he collects them.
I dont.... really I dont. well not really. .. O.K. so I have the globey and the teardrop, but i dont want more. really,.. well ..no I dont .Message to self "you dont need anymore" (that should do it. )
O.K. well maybe for Parts?
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 5, 2009 12:07:22 GMT 10
Yet more on G.T.sDick Basset owned Globe Products. His son and 2 daughters worked for him as well as varios relatives that I will enevour to contact in due course.
My source that I just rang said that Murray (Morrie?) Loveday worked for them too,perhaps in the fibreglass boat section. Loveday went on to build Quest vans and like centura quests van they made them with fibreglass panels that were moulded off aluminium so they looked like ally but were in fact f/g.
Another thing to consider with dating MAY be wether or not Gold Coasters were numbered differently.
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Post by harriet on May 7, 2009 16:36:20 GMT 10
hi harriet here . i looked at every part of the A frame only thing i could find was G.S.B.50. looked in cupboards ;draws ;ice chest ;and under the beds not a thing .
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Post by winterwood on May 7, 2009 16:57:55 GMT 10
Hi Harriet,
Like you, I also initially had problems trying to find the numbers. If you haven't already done so, I recommend you refer to Franklin1's reply No 8. It's there somewhere ... good luck.
Max
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 7, 2009 17:55:11 GMT 10
Ok this may help.I spoke to 313 Royal today and he can only find the number on his tow coupling and I'm sure he said it was 603. If I'm right then this is the same as lacems?trishs, meaning it is probably the casting ? number for that part only.
313 said there was so much paint on his draw bar nothing was evident.
When I sanded my draw bar back it was to bare steel before I could see the numbers stamped in both of the draw bar angles.
Just 6" back from front of angle on nearside (kerb side) and 8" on off side. They were stamped on the outer edge so as to get less deflection in the angle ,less "bounce" resulting in a clearer mark. This from Bob who did it when the chassis was completed.
Unfortunately he had no idea after so long what the numbers meant.
On my offside I sanded a lot of the depth off and I was being careful with 7" sander/polisher .
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Post by beetlesbailey on May 15, 2009 12:51:11 GMT 10
well Dave I made a compromise. I brought home parts of that Globey.
It was too far gone to do anything else.
i replied in depth to Wannabenomad" detailing as much as I ca remember about the differences in his, mine 313 royals and the parts van. So look there for more info
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Post by woddabugger on May 16, 2009 22:19:56 GMT 10
Yet more on G.T.sDick Basset owned Globe Products. His son and 2 daughters worked for him as well as varios relatives that I will enevour to contact in due course. My source that I just rang said that Murray (Morrie?) Loveday worked for them too,perhaps in the fibreglass boat section. Loveday went on to build Quest vans and like centura quests van they made them with fibreglass panels that were moulded off aluminium so they looked like ally but were in fact f/g. Another thing to consider with dating MAY be wether or not Gold Coasters were numbered differently. Big Bob Bermie in our car club knows a bit about Globe vans as well ,he used to work for them back then,give him a call as well.  |
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Post by whippy on May 23, 2009 19:14:29 GMT 10
The chassis number is on both bars near the towbar hitch, I had the grind the rust off to find mine.
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