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Post by Franklin1 on Feb 15, 2011 9:44:48 GMT 10
G'day Rod, Interesting question...and one which leads to all sorts of options. Does the one you're thinking of, look like this?...  Dunno where you'd get these anymore. Probably on ebay, or garage sales, or Op Shops. Then you can have this version. This one is from the 1970s, but the design is still readily available from kitchen storage outlets...  But what you really want Rod, is one of these ingenious 1950s "Jiffy Holder" racks...   Just push the marble up in the wire frame, and it will hold the weight of the tea towel...   Flick the marble up with your finger, and the tea towel is released. ------------------------------------------------ Wanna have a go at making something retro? Sure! Get one of those clothes airers...  ...or get the heavy-gauge plastic-coated coat hangers...  Both are a great source of plastic-coated wire, strong enough to carry the weight of tea towels. A bit of chop-chop, some timber ends, a few holes drilled, and you have a genuine Rodnet retro tea towel holder. A proud boast at many a Vintage gathering! ;D ;D cheers, Al. |
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Post by cobber on Feb 15, 2011 13:29:49 GMT 10
G'day Rod, Such a simple request for such a simple item that some people put no value on, you wouldn't think it could become so complicated would you...... but Al has a habit of doing that and then...along comes Dave and F/F to try and short circuit the thread that has a long way to run yet....... there must be at least a dozen different tea towel rail designs. Here are a couple more. This one is a slight variation on Al's first one.... but could be just the one you want  Then there is this one.... completely different. It has a plastic ball under spring tension  That holds the tea towel when it is slid up under the ball  Hope this helps  J Cobber. |
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Post by Franklin1 on Feb 15, 2011 18:58:44 GMT 10
Dang! I was kinda hoping we'd get to see a Rodnet retro MkI tea towel holder!  Took the easy way out, eh Rod?   Cobber, in one of your photos above, I notice the slot in the plastic ball holder screw is not exactly horizontal. Could you attend to that please? Here's the ol' 3-arm swivel towel holder. This one was salvaged from our garage fire a couple of years ago, so it's looking a bit worse for wear now...   And of course, there's no point in having a retro towel rack without retro tea towels as well. They are available from various places, including this website, but check around because prices do vary...  cheers, Al. |
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Post by cobber on Feb 16, 2011 9:36:43 GMT 10
In the 1960 Newcastle 'van it has this tea towel rail above the sink  And this type of rail above each bed  So it would be fair to say they are not tea towel rails................. but, This is the rail above the sink in Don caravan # 559  Does this show that Don caravans were just too snobbish to use an ordinary tea towel rail like everybody else had ? (They also have the same type of rail over the bed) Cobber. PS....F/F the tea towel and I became redundant at about the same time Al... that screw did look untidy aye ? I've fixed it  |
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Post by cobber on Feb 16, 2011 15:38:35 GMT 10
G'day Dave, Being a 59er we would expect it had slot headed screws so that's what Rod will use to fix it I assume Here's another style..... I wonder how many there are ?  I'll take this one off and polish the brass mounting plates and align the screws when I replace it..... before Al notices the slots are vertical instead of horizontal..... or should they be as they are... in line with the grain of the wood  Cobber. |
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Post by cobber on Feb 16, 2011 16:17:35 GMT 10
Always vertical aye,.....so the slot doesn't fill up with paint  What about if they are used on an horizontal surface eh ? eh ? What about if they are used on polished timber.... should they then not line up with the grain of the timber Big thing when you look into it Cobber. |
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Post by Franklin1 on Feb 16, 2011 16:25:35 GMT 10
Now look here, youse peoples! Stop trying to turn this thread into another useless useful topic such as screw slot alignment! I'm not an expert about these screws. I was merely pointing out that one of our esteemed members had published a photo showing the slot slightly out of alignment. Even today, in barber shops in Bolivia, it was the only thing they could talk about. "Imagine!", they said, "cobber posted a photo on the WORLD-WIDE-WEB showing a screw slot in his van that was neither perfectly horizontal nor perfectly vertical!!"  As far as the correct practice for this sort of things goes, we shall have to wait for the next edition of "Old Cobber's Almanac" (or should that be "Cobber's Old Almanac"?) to get the correct answers. I can only tell you that the van I'm fed up with working on has 10 screws around the porthole window frame. Each slot follows the circumference of the circle. How's that for attention to detail?? Does anybody know if reddo did any washing up and wiping up at Nelligen?? cheers, Al. |
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Post by atouchofglass on Feb 16, 2011 17:05:23 GMT 10
Make one up from what ever or ...... cheat Here's a cheats version ..... and a double at that  Atog |
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Post by cobber on Feb 16, 2011 17:56:30 GMT 10
Al said:- Al ! What a vision of beauty that would be ....it blows all the rules about the slots lining up this way or that out of the water. It's another virtue of the slot headed screw....they are not just a "thing" to hold other things up.... they have a beauty of their own and I tend to think the slots should be lined up in what ever direction is pleasing to your eye. The only rule that should be applied is............ you do not paint over slot headed screws... especially if they are brass...or stainless.....or nickel plated Cobber. |
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Post by Franklin1 on Feb 16, 2011 19:25:40 GMT 10
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Post by raym on Feb 16, 2011 21:43:39 GMT 10
HI All
As I am a carpenter and Joiner, when I did my apprenticeship I was taught that slots in screws should follow the grain of the timber. Regardless whether the timber is horizontal or vertical. On hardware (metal items) slots should be vertical on vertical shapes and horizontal on horizontal shapes i.e the slots follow longest side of the hardware plate. Regarding round items e.g portholes the slots should follow around the circle.
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Post by cobber on Feb 18, 2011 8:52:44 GMT 10
STRUTH ! IS THIS DUMB THREAD STILL RUNNING ? But I see you have all strayed from the original subject.... and are even starting to wander away from the second subject that replaced the first subject. To get back to the second subject. Raym... . we didn't expect anybody with actual knowledge of the subject to post on this thread..... but... as you have broken the rules and done so I thank you. Raym said Now Ray... if you could advise me what is the correct procedure to adopt in this example :- I have this rather primitive light and switch mounted on a vertical surface that consists of polished timber running horizontally. I tend to think all screws slots should run horizontally but then that would break the rule about the slots being vertical on a vertical surface. Woe is me.  And getting back to the original point of this thread..... Tea towel rails. While I have been waiting for the humidity to drop so I can do some serious spray painting I DID remove the tea towel rail I showed in reply #16 and polished the brass feet, and repainted the rail. I found it had three different types of slot headed screws holding it up so I replaced them with four CS RH brass slot headed screws...... looks much better aye?  |
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Post by cobber on Feb 18, 2011 9:01:15 GMT 10
STRUTH ! IS THIS DUMB THREAD STILL RUNNING ? But I see you have all strayed from the original subject.... and are even starting to wander away from the second subject that replaced the first subject. To get back to the second subject. Raym... . we didn't expect anybody with actual knowledge of the subject to post on this thread..... but... as you have broken the rules and done so I thank you. Raym said Now Ray... if you could advise me what is the correct procedure to adopt in this example I have this rather primitive light and switch mounted on a vertical surface that consists of polished timber running horizontally. From what you have said the screws on the light should be horizontal.... and those on the switch should be vertical even though the grain of the timber is horizontal...do you agree ? Woe is me. And getting back to the original point of this thread..... Tea towel rails. While I have been waiting for the humidity to drop so I can do some serious spray painting I DID remove the tea towel rail I showed in reply #16 and polished the brass feet, and repainted the rail. I found it had three different types of slot headed screws holding it up  so I replaced them with four CS RH brass slot headed screws...... looks much better aye? Rod..... let us know when the rail Dave so generously sent you arrives won't you..... and don't be afraid to ask if you need advice on it's installation . Cobber. |
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Post by raym on Feb 21, 2011 21:14:34 GMT 10
Hi All
If I was to install the light and light switch on Cobber's reply, I would put the slots of the screws to the light switch vertical [as per the photo] as it is a vertical rectangle. As for the light this is a horizontal rectangle therefore the slots would run horizontal. the grain of the timber does not come into consideration as these are hardware items. raym
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Post by cobber on Feb 22, 2011 13:20:48 GMT 10
Thanks Raym, Your suggestion (seconded by Dave) has been implemented and I must say the improvement to the appearance of the installation is remarkable..... it really does matter Cobber. |
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Post by seeshell on Feb 27, 2011 21:01:53 GMT 10
Just what are you doing and where are you going if you have a giant plastic/concrete Silverback Gorilla in the flatbed of your Ute? I really want the back story of that guy. www.sheepbloke.com.au website is very funny indeed! Curiouser and curiouser, Seeshell |
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Post by cobber on Mar 5, 2011 12:47:32 GMT 10
Talking to an old bloke t'other day..NO RAY / AL! Not talking to me self....a real old bloke, a carpenter and tradesman, and he was telling me about an office building he was fitting out in the old days. The architect (A) chipped him about the screws not being aligned on some of the doors the old bloke (TOB) was hanging. TOB pointed out to the A that the screws were tensioned correctly.... not good enough, the A wanted the screws aligned correctly, so TOB aligned them and the A was happy.... after he was gone TOB re- tensioned them... and he was happy. Personally.... I think the A was right, but I didn't say that to TOB because he was giving me a heap of slot headed screws. The moral of the story is............ keep your mouth shut sometimes. Cobber. PS.... Rod, have you got any photos of your tea towel rail installed yet.....I've resurrected this thread just so you can show us what she looks like |
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Post by bolerific on Sept 22, 2011 3:19:20 GMT 10
Oh my goodness A tea towel thread! I just discovered this. You guys are too much! All I can say is Australians have the BEST tea towels! I buy them everywhere at thrift stores up here in Canada as people bring them home as souvenirs and never use them because they are to pretty. They just don't know that the towels are actually made to function and are the best tea towels in the world. I sing their praises to everyone. My caravan is full of them. I will get a picture next time out.
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Post by griffin on Sept 22, 2011 10:19:47 GMT 10
Hi Bolerific Not only Canadians didn't use their tea towels, Mum used to buy them and keep them 'for good', never dried a dish in anger If it's a good Aussie tea towel it will more than likely have "Made in Ireland" on it These days, like everything else they are probably Made in China  George |
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Post by cobber on Sept 22, 2011 15:07:48 GMT 10
DAAAVE ! You've done it again...... you will not let sleeping dogs lay will you ? And now Mabel (bolerific) is confused The thread is about Rods tea towel rail, right ?............ OK, it got railroaded a couple of times but I'm sure Dave wants to hear what happened to the rail he sent Rod....what about it Rod While we are waiting (and I'm waiting for the paint to dry) I thought I would show you all the tea towel rail and tea towel in Marks East Coast Caravan, that was built by a bloke who made things instead of buying things. He obviously made this rail.  The tea towel is kind of different too.. in that it will never fall off the rail no matter how rough the road.  But..... if you want to get it off to do some serious wiping up you just lift the rail up and slide the towel off.  How good is that ?  Are there anymore home made tea towel rails out there Cobber. |
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Post by humpyboy on Sept 24, 2011 21:03:31 GMT 10
The things you find in the back of the cupboard when you go a hunting.  |
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Post by DC3Td on Sept 25, 2011 13:04:11 GMT 10
Quick towel rail project:  Couple of these slide bolt type fittings.  Length of 1/4" rod measured & cut to suit needs.  First end bends.  2nd end bends,cleaned & polished.  All done & dusted in half hour. cheers |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 18:27:10 GMT 10
Hello Albert.. Truth is mate i had posted on this thread way back about page 2. Questions where asked if i even knew how to use a TEA towel... Now listen up old china... i think you willl find that my tea towel rails are a dang sight more like a tea towel rail than that home made abomination you threw up on reply #80. If ever there was an over sized toilet roll holder... well... thats it.. Here is the one on the end of the table i was refering to in one of my posts last night..  2 neat /period brackets holding a length ( about 10 or 12") of 1/4"aluminium tubing with a piece of dowel through the inside to give it strength. I wouldnt dare mention paper towel roll holders .... but you did. Damn shame ya have tarnished this thread with plastic stuff you would only find in a classic caravan. Shame shame shame Albert Regards Your son .. Ärold esq |
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Post by DC3Td on Sept 29, 2011 17:48:53 GMT 10
Howdy Rod.Now it`s a towel rack:  Then i made a narrower one to suit the Teardrop as well as a toilet roll holder:    The original towel rack or clothes hanger in situ since i`ve had van:  cheers |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2011 20:20:51 GMT 10
WOW,,,, How "bland" and ordinary is that genuine vintage caravan tea towel rail , If THAT is wot is supposta be on the walls of a vintage caravan then i will havta consider building a van with no walls so i dont have to attach something so ....... ....umm.. basic....??... plain??..... Umm.....geez .. just plain bland i suppose is the best way to describe it Can vouch for the authenticity of both the rails in the photos i put up of the double and single tea towel rails. even though they where not original items in the Cadet. The one on the end of the table came from "The wreckerys" 1958 Furness van i demolished about 4 or 5 years ago.. The double rail holder came out of the van i brought home from up near muswellbrook back a few years ago. Both where covered in crud when i removed them and i believe they where both original fittings in both 50s vans... No household fittings here . Nothing that even vaguely resembles a Bunnings 2011 $2.99 cheapo replica plastic coated round bar fake Regards Reddo |
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so I replaced them with four CS RH brass slot headed screws...... looks much better aye?
