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Jan 11, 2010 18:28:15 GMT 10
Post by scootman on Jan 11, 2010 18:28:15 GMT 10
Hi all this has little to do with vans, but if anyone out there is a painting expert I need your advice. This old workers cottage that Im living in is in desparate need of painting, the ceiling is old tounge and groove and in the kitchen due to heat from the stove etc the old paint has crazed etc. Without laying on my back on a trestle for the rest of mylife is there a way to paint over it successfully? Cheers Scoot
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Jan 11, 2010 18:38:22 GMT 10
Post by DC3Td on Jan 11, 2010 18:38:22 GMT 10
Hi Scoot. Well to do the job properly, the first thing needed doing is sanding back the ceiling. If you`re deft with a blow torch (without burning the place down) it`ll do the job. Ideally hire a mini scaffold.Gets you to a respectable work hight. Goggles,mask & a lightweight electric/air sander.Just a couple of ideas. No real easy way out. Case of do it right the first time,you won`t have to go back to it (in a hurry). Just imagine you`re doing the roof of a vin van. Slightly larger than normal! Good luck. gordon
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Jan 11, 2010 19:44:08 GMT 10
Post by scootman on Jan 11, 2010 19:44:08 GMT 10
Groan:) ok DC thanks for that
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Jan 12, 2010 5:33:56 GMT 10
Post by minicamper on Jan 12, 2010 5:33:56 GMT 10
Scoot, messy, but also paint stripper? The rest of what Gordon said would be a must. It is highly likely to be a lead based paint if the cottage hasn't received any cosmetic love in the last 30 years. In which case, blow torch/heat gun, should only be used in a well ventilated space. The paint stripper is caustic, so you'd have to cover everything, use a "gel" type to minimise dripping etc and work at ceiling height to avoid getting it on you. It's quicker working, but then you gotta clean up. What you can't do, is paint over it. If it's cracked to the extent the timber is exposed, then it has to go. Even if only partly crazing, it is unlikely anything will stick to it for long to cover it up.. Like VV's when painting (now this thread is van related ;D) the external finish you see is only as good as the prep and surface beneath.. Cheers Chris
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Jan 12, 2010 9:29:42 GMT 10
Post by Roehm3108 on Jan 12, 2010 9:29:42 GMT 10
Hi Scootman. So this is why you've been a bit quiet of late - lying on the floor pondering the celings ;D ;D ;D I agree with everything the previous posters have said - there just ain't an easy way around it! Just wanted to add another thing. If the paint is actually flaking or bubbling off, there is the POSSIBILITY that at some stage the ceilings were painted in kalsomine, and nothing will stick to kalsomine for long. I suggest you check for what's underneath that top layer, just to make sure. Cos if kalsomine was there, you definitely have to strip back to bare boards and seal it before repainting. For your sake I hope it's not there, as it is a real bugger. It used to be a cheap way of painting back in the 50's when people couldn't afford the price of paint, so be warned. Cheers Ray
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Jan 12, 2010 9:53:30 GMT 10
Post by scootman on Jan 12, 2010 9:53:30 GMT 10
Groan, yes there are patches where the paint is flaking off. Groan the rest of it seems to be baked on., Groan Im sure it hasntbeen touched int he last 30-40 years. Groan I hate sanding. Groan there is only one other reason I like to lay on my back with vibrating things in my hand. Gotta tell ya, if it wasnt tounge and groove Id just line it with something else Cheers all. Thanks for the advice and if anyone else has a KTELL miracle out there please let me know Scoot
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Jan 12, 2010 17:27:54 GMT 10
Post by bobandjacqui on Jan 12, 2010 17:27:54 GMT 10
G'day Scootman, Have you thought of trying sandblasting? Saw a house in Hervey Bay where the owner brought in a sandblaster. The place was all tounge and groove walls and ceilings. Once it was blasted back to bare wood instead of painting he oiled it. End result was stunning. I would imagine it would be a dusty job so a proper breathing mask etc would be a must, thats my two bobs worth. Cheers Bob.
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Jan 12, 2010 17:47:56 GMT 10
Post by humpyboy on Jan 12, 2010 17:47:56 GMT 10
Sand blasting is one option but check around as there are lots of different mediums out there now, you may find something that is not quite as messy but you would have to admit it's got to be the easiest I'm liking the idea beats sanding any day.
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Jan 12, 2010 22:08:46 GMT 10
Post by scootman on Jan 12, 2010 22:08:46 GMT 10
MM sandblasting, thats a thought.
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Jan 13, 2010 20:07:48 GMT 10
Post by whippy on Jan 13, 2010 20:07:48 GMT 10
Wouldn't recommend sand blasting , firstly the wood will go very grainy, secondly and most important, you will be finding sand in places you never believed it could get to & it will take years to get rid of it all. I am talking from first hand experience, I sand blasted the brick rendered walls of a 110 yr old kitchen. !!
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Jan 15, 2010 23:12:43 GMT 10
Post by scootman on Jan 15, 2010 23:12:43 GMT 10
Think Im gonna go with just lining the ceiling. At the end of the day it will be faster, cleaner, and stop the ceiling dirt falling
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Jan 16, 2010 7:45:35 GMT 10
Post by DC3Td on Jan 16, 2010 7:45:35 GMT 10
Hi Scootman. Still gotta bend your neck & arms.Covering those boards a miner sweated his guts out putting up is a shame. I know what you`re up against. I helped a mate restore his miners cottage down Deni way a couple of years ago. (i was supposed to be recuperating from op) What a treat though to see the job finished.Could be worse. Think what Michaelangelo was up against! You could call yours the Pristine chapel? cheers gordon
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