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Post by Jim on Oct 2, 2006 22:14:12 GMT 10
Ok, here’s a quickie quiz that won’t take long. It’ll test your powers of observation.. First questions.. 1.. In the picture below, what brand is the coupling/jockey wheel assembly? 2.. Might the assembly be a problem if you’re towing with a station wagon or van? We’ll see what replies (if any) turn up in the next day or so, and then move onto the next question. The winner gets a Cupie Doll or a Belly Ring Dangle (depending on availability)  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2006 8:09:50 GMT 10
Hi Jim I will start my reply with another question. Another question: How do the mechanical overide brakes function with a jockey wheel in the way    Dunno who makes the coupling but i like the idea of the jockey wheel being set up in the middle of the draw bar. I am sure we have all experienced problems associated with offset jockey wheels. (You can see where the J/Wheel has been moved it from its original bracket on the left side of the A bar.) they tend to have a mind of thier own when you are trying to manouver or should i say "jockey" a van into position while pulling or pushing the van by hand. I am sure these jockey wheels are direct relatives of the shopping trolley floppy wheels. Never seem to want to go in the direction you are steering them. Turn sideways and grind along the concrete or take divots out of the lawn. I would think that centre mounting them would cure the problem ... yes/no. i have just replaced the old whitworth threaded long screw jockey wheel assembly on Matilda with a late model unit. ( SHOCK HORROR... not really a vintage van now eh!!!) To help with moving it around the yard when its off the towball i have welded a 25mm x 25mm piece of square section about 100mm long to the side of the wheel bracket on an angle facing upwards at about 45 degrees. i made up a handle about 1200mm long out of 20mm square sect with a t piece on top . this fits inside the 25 x 25 section and is secured with a pin. at least now i dont have to bend down to heave on the coupling or drawbar to pull the van along. the handle is wide enough for two people to grab hold of and pull . it also makes steering it a lot easier than kicking the jockey wheel around or heaving side to side on the drawbar. Eventually i will fit a wheel barrow wheel and tyre on the bottom off the Jwheel assembly to replace the pissy 100mm solid rubber effort. I know everyone will chime in with "Why not buy a Macko mule" or whatever they are called but for $30 for a plain Jane j/wheel and 20 minutes with a welder i have achieved the same thing. Oh by the way. The bloke has the stabilzer rods on arse up in your photo Jim. they are designed to come up through the bottom of the d plate.. the chains hang down from the plates that sit on the drawbar arms ( thats why the plates are made angled upwards with a keyhole slot in them for the chain). This bloke must have welded the plates in place??? Not sure if the wheel itself is removable from the jockey wheel assembly thus allowing the assembly to be drawn up and removed through the coupling. If it can be... then i would be happy to drop the tailgate of a ute or wagon without hitting the coupling. Again depends on how much set is in the gooseneck of the tow vehicle. Otherwise ... no thanks the assembly would make a nice mess of the tailgate. Harold Steptoe .. in the "shed of invention" P.S... is the cupie doll inflatable life size.   ;D.. and does she have lips etc. |
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Post by humpty2 on Oct 3, 2006 19:53:42 GMT 10
maybe those stabiliser bars are pulling upwards.......would work then!........Had a central jockey wheel on a Coromal van I had but it was located independently about a foot towards the van from the coupling...........worked well!!............................................ Hang on a sec ..........if those stabiliser bars were pulled down , and had tension on them they would be trying to rip the coupling off the ball right  |
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Post by earlee on Oct 3, 2006 21:54:55 GMT 10
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Jim
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Post by Jim on Oct 8, 2006 19:59:11 GMT 10
Starting backwards
Earlee..
I use Photoshop but to suggest I have the sort of skill required to dummy up a picture like that is a compliment.
Thanks mate.
(you got the handbrake right too)
Humpty..
I can see where you’re coming from, sometimes it’s difficult to get your your head around what might happen when springs, tentions and skyhooks might be involved.
But you’re right, a central jockey is better even if its back a way from the coupling.
Then we come to the old Newcastle red dog..
You can’t beat an old dog who’s up early, bright eyed, damp nose, tail waging, tongue out, (walking around farting like he owns the world) and sniffs around after what he wants.
Reddo observation skills.. A1 .. and so early in the morning!
You’re dead right about the weight distribution bars.. They are fitted arse about and if anything could adding pressure in the wrong direction.
But with no tension on the chains, rust and a tight fit helped to hold the brackets on.
There’s no Cupie dolls left mate (All sent to the west).. so how about a belly ring dangle?
I could make sure it gets to Coledale and maybe Will could fit it to your navel while around the campfire. A sharpened kebab stick or a hole punch should do the trick.
Although it was a bit of a red herring question, the coupling is a Wesco.
(Save the pic to your desktop, bring it up in “Windows Picture and Fax Viewer”, click ‘enlarge’, and you'll see the name on the jockey wheel pillar)
And for sure, the jockey wheel would get in the way with a ute tailgate of swinging door on a van.
Jim
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;D.. and does she have lips etc. 
