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Post by Jim on May 14, 2005 10:02:47 GMT 10
I'll start the technical ball rolling by asking if anyone recognises what this wheel might have been originally fitted to? Jim  |
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Post by Jim on May 14, 2005 10:57:02 GMT 10
Thanks jailbar I was trying to work out how old the little wagon/trailer is and figured the wheels would be a good indication. I should have measured the wheel diameter, but 22 to 24 inches would be correct. At a distance it appears like it may have been horse drawn but close up you can see it has a wooden central drawbar with a flat steel plate bolted to it. A large sloppy fit pin through a yoke and a hole in the plate made the coupling. Here's another picture of the little wagon. Jim  |
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Post by WILL AND lYN on May 14, 2005 11:25:12 GMT 10
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Post by Jim on May 14, 2005 12:09:25 GMT 10
You and me both Will.. isn't it such a fabulous little thing.
It's difficult to get hold of the bloke who owns it but I'll keep trying.
Inside there's two basic single wooden bunks with a narrow walk space between.
The roof covering is stretched painted canvas, which is torn as you can see in the picture.
Jim
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Post by earlee on May 14, 2005 16:26:53 GMT 10
Will - I assume you have a horse to hitch up and tow the wagon - or are you gonna play cowboys n injuns !!
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Post by humptydumpty on May 14, 2005 19:00:51 GMT 10
Jim, Looks about the 24", and looks like a bead edge too.
24" would put it at 1924/25 and the beaded edge would indicate it came from an English car.
American cars had 21" in 1927 and reduced an inch every year "sorta". most had the rim that the tyre was placed on, then onto the spare wheel carrier.
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Post by willandlyn on May 14, 2005 21:53:44 GMT 10
Hi Earlee
Usually the people who collect these beautiful old Relics of the past are eccentric and usually never let there colection go until they pass they often never do them up and sit on them as curiosity value
I have been to a few of the museums and I still wonder if it is lack of resources and money or why at least they dont spend a little bit of time helping to preserve some of these gems in better condition
My interest in these things is to get them on the road and share the visual experience with members of the public and enjoy doing the restorations
If a horse was needed believe me Earlee I would find one
Cowboys and injuns did cross my mind when I saw it
but can you imagine a total restoration on that little Gem that is pure and simple one of the most original examples of early day holidaying you would ever find
I am extremely interested in restoring that little cart
and I am prepared to pay a reasonable price for it
regards
Will
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Post by willandlyn on May 14, 2005 22:13:24 GMT 10
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Post by cobber on May 15, 2005 10:07:05 GMT 10
I have been wanting an excuse to post this photo of what could be the ultimate minimal camper/trailer combination. You have given me the excuse thanks Jim because I reckon these are the same wheels, although not tyreless, as the ones you are asking about. As for giving you any technical assistance--I can’t--I can only agree with what jailbar has said regarding the likely age. The caption on the back of this post card is:- 1935-Morris 8/40 on the road to Gundagai NSW  Cobber. |
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Post by humptydumpty on May 15, 2005 20:12:44 GMT 10
Hey Dennis is there still one of those Morris 8/40s still running around Alstonville. I sold mine to a woman up there about 10/12 years ago....If it was Sue who bought it......it wasn't me ;D ;D  |
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Post by cobber on May 15, 2005 20:33:56 GMT 10
Yeah--I reckon this photo was taken at the end of a dirty weekend away camping  --it rained every day and it is obvious the bird has had a gut full--she just wants to get home  And the dope has had a ball, he thinks his car and trailer are beautiful and he couldn’t resist stopping to take a picture as evidence of what a great time they had ;D --and she ain’t going to play ball--no way. With that in mind--the photo amuses me every time I look at it    There is the off-chance I could be wrong--it might be the start of their honeymoon--and she isn’t too sure about that either  Cobber. |
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Post by humptydumpty on May 16, 2005 19:22:30 GMT 10
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Post by Roehm3108 on May 16, 2005 20:11:53 GMT 10
I reckon it's neither Humpty!! I reckon it's the billy for that next cuppa - placed in the easiest posi where it won't get lost and can be got at quickly. It hangs there for the trip to add that "True Grit" flavour!!!!! Don't u know anythiiinnnggggg? ?? And I'm not even a tea drinker. How come the girl's hair isn't even messed up after travelling all those miles in an open car? HMMMM!! Ray |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2005 0:18:05 GMT 10
Ditzy n me took our little covered trailer camping on the weekend with some friends .....thats me suckin' on the stubby ;D ;D ;D ]  Will ......do you wanna buy ours too  |
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Post by willandlyn on May 17, 2005 8:46:14 GMT 10
they didnt have stubbies those days Mark only King Browns
so I know its not you!!!!
which one is ditzy?
Mate they are making a mess of whatever they are eating there
besides the fact you think you can hoodwink us the viewing public it is a gem of a photo
AND IF IT WAS AVAILABLE YES I WOULD MAKE AN OFFER
Just think cabana thought they had the first pop out camper
Will
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Post by ditzygypsy on May 17, 2005 9:15:13 GMT 10
So he has bloody big hands................... and the king brown looks like a stubby. Also it is darn hot out there so a big thirst is the go............ as for me I am the one with the jug............. who else would that be...........
But truthefully it is a gem of a photo.................. love the formality of it. The silver service and the enamel dishes. But more important get the spoked wheels.
Footnote: at least this lot seem happier than the bird in the other pic.
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Post by Roehm3108 on May 19, 2005 18:03:15 GMT 10
I reckon the following pics are a "modern" version of "your" trailer, Mark. It's out of Newne's Practical Mechanics, Feb 1957. The only difference is the front V shaped cupboard. If anyone is interested, they can have copies of drawings and construction notes out of the same mag. Mark, could you send me a copy of your photo by email as an attachment, so that I can keep it for my info? Ta.  Trailer in closed (travelling) position  Trailer in open position Cheers (esp for getting pbucket to work) Ray |
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Post by Roehm3108 on May 19, 2005 18:07:57 GMT 10
PS
Looks like the same car that's on cobber's post!!!!!
Ray
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Post by Roehm3108 on May 20, 2005 19:52:41 GMT 10
Hi Mark
I worked out how to download that pic, so don't worry about emailing it to me!
Ta
Ray
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Post by Jim on May 25, 2005 10:51:38 GMT 10
Ray This little wagon seems very much like the one in the pictures you posted. Will I’d guess the guy who owns this doesn’t want to sell it, but I’ll ask him if you like Jim  |
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Post by willandlyn on May 26, 2005 1:34:29 GMT 10
;D Jim your dead right ask him I would love to own that beautiful little wagon Thanks Jim Regards Will
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Post by Roehm3108 on May 28, 2005 15:58:52 GMT 10
Hi Jim
Where did you take that photo??? Looks like some sort of private museum. Not really interested in buying the wagon, but let Will have it, he'll do a batter job with it anyway. I reckon you'll be lucky to get this guy to part with it. I thought that I might build one myself one day - after I've finished renovating the house, after I've restored the Chesney etc etc. So maybe by 2020 I might do it. Probably have my arthritis catch up with me by then!!!
Ray
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Post by Roehm3108 on May 28, 2005 21:47:31 GMT 10
I don't even have a bath to soak in, Jailbar  Maybe I'll have to find a Don to remedy that little problem!! What are those tubs like, Mark??? Cheers Ray |
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