Post by shesgotthelook on Jul 30, 2015 8:45:49 GMT 10
Hi SP & welcome. Click on 'Home' up the top. Scroll down to 'Members Photo Album' (or whatever suits your topic), Click on that & a list of members threads will come up. On the top right of that list in the purple bar (or maybe blue on your computer?) it says 'Create Thread'. Click on that & away you go! If you have photos, best to use a photo hosting site such as photobucket. Cheers, SGTL
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 24, 2021 20:57:36 GMT 10
Welcome to the forum, and thanks for showing us a photo of your van.
Based on just that photo your van looks like a Viscount from around 1962 or 3. The model will depend on the length.
If you can tell us the serial number welded on the drawbar and the length of the van (just the cabin part measured about a foot/30 cms above the floorline) we can most likely tell you more about it. We’ll certainly assist you as best we can.
Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 25, 2021 11:05:10 GMT 10
Hmmm, 'R1'. Well that does make it interesting.
Your van looks identical to Vintagevalerie's van higher up this thread, which also has an 'R' serial number, and possibly that's why you've posted on this thread? Up until recently we thought that Viscount only started using 'R' serial numbers around 1973 when 'R' was used to denote the Royal model (although Viscount had used 'Royal' as a model name from the 50's onwards). However, we're still learning about Viscount. Part of the issue is that at one point Viscount had three factories - Adelaide (where they started originally), Sydney and Melbourne. There were differences in appearance and fittings for the models which came out of the different factories. We've got a reasonably good handle on the Sydney built vans because there was such a large number produced, but not so much on the Adelaide and Melbourne built vans (Melbourne only operated for a couple of years).
My thinking is that your van was probably built in the Adelaide factory. By at least 1966 the serial number on the Adelaide vans started with 'VC', and early on (say up to 1961 or 2) it was just a sequential number with no letters involved. So the 'R' serial numbers may have stood for 'Regal' or 'Royal' or had no particular meaning (although I think the latter is less likely).
The other comment to make is that the coloured panels on your van are the same as on the 1963 Viscounts from the Sydney factory, with similar aluminium cladding, so that's why I suggested that your van was from around that date, and I'm still sticking with that.
In the last few years one of our forum members, Twocutekelpies, has done an enormous amount of work exploring the history of Viscount and compiling a Viscount register. I will ask her to tell us what she thinks in relation to your van and my Adelaide theory. Interestingly she doesn't seem to have Vintagevalerie's van on her register, but that may be just because she hasn't seen the photos.
Hi Don, Yes I have spoken to Shelly it had thrown her for a bit ( as it could with a totally new Viscount style popping up)but she and Hughdeany have come to a point where they think that my Van could be a Viscount Regal, the date they gave me was a bit younger ( late 60/70) than what you said but I agree more with early 60’s due to the fact I can physically see what the van is made up of internally. I do believe it may take a little while for this and the listed van to be recorded into the Viscount files due to the fact it’s rarely been seen before. Thanks for all your help I still need to find a badge or decal that will suit her era. Jean 😊
Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 25, 2021 20:51:20 GMT 10
I’m glad you’ve been corresponding with Twocutekelpies, and I gather Hughdeany has been involved too? Hughdeany identified Vintagevalerie’s van as a Viscount as well.
I’m interested that they dated your van as later than I have. My reasons for suggesting that it is from around 1963 are as follows:
1. Your van is clad in plain, unridged cladding with a diamond pattern impressed into it which was used by Viscount during the first three years of the 1960’s. In 1964 Viscount in Sydney introduced multi-strand cladding. Viscount Adelaide might have been slower to use the new type of cladding, but they were certainly using it by the mid 60’s and later.
2. The painted panels on your van are the same design as those used on the 1963 vans built in Sydney and Melbourne. In 1964 Viscount started using a wide coloured band between the windows, and after that coloured flashes which changed year by year. And by the mid 60’s or so, the Adelaide factory was using a single narrow coloured band on the sides just below and between the lower part of the windows.
Of course I’m always open to argument, but I think the above is pretty persuasive.
I think the only reason it was dated later was the fact it was a “new” Viscount that had come up on the radar,the two of them do a fabulous job at identifying vans, then I throw a spanner in the works with this style. Pretty sure they where just being date cautious until they had a chance to do more research... I appreciate all their help and yours 😊