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Post by philouise on Feb 16, 2012 12:02:09 GMT 10
G'day. I need 2 x 13 inch wheels  This is a photo of one.  And this is a photo of what it goes on.  The centre hole is 70mm dia, the stud holes are 10mm dia and 80mm apart. The offset or clearance is 90mm (on the inside). (90-100mm would be ok if i used a spacer). I have been advised that they may be off late 60s datsun or toyota. Any advise on that  . Any wheels to match for sale Thanks and cheers. phil. ;D |
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Post by beetlesbailey on Feb 16, 2012 18:43:57 GMT 10
Perhaps its from a ford consul.
They had stub axles that were bolted on with 4 bolts which made them ideal for home trailer builders.
Beetles
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Post by JBJ on Feb 16, 2012 19:10:05 GMT 10
Hi Phil,
I would take the hub assembly to a wreckers, preferably one thats been established a while.
I think you would quickly find whether any jap cars had wheels that fitted the hubs, & I would be surprised if one didnt.
All the jap wheels I've come across over the years have been copied from Pommie or US cars , in bolt patterns & stud numbers.
Late 6 stud is copied off 1930's Chev, early Datsun was Austin A40, & I've gone blank on the others I've interchanged, but others may help.
I would think early Datsun 1200 could go close.
JBJ
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Post by humpyboy on Feb 16, 2012 19:14:00 GMT 10
I have one that looks like it may come close but need to double check, most welcome to it if matches, can take with me to Cowra and pass onto someone closer to you.
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Post by DC3Td on Feb 16, 2012 19:47:02 GMT 10
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Post by humpyboy on Feb 16, 2012 20:18:24 GMT 10
Just checked my wheel, only thing that came close was was the 80mm hole centres, mine has 14mm holes/60mm centre hole and an offset of about 105mm, sorry bout that Phil.
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Post by philouise on Feb 17, 2012 12:00:14 GMT 10
Thanks, guys, for your replies.
Beetles, at the first wreckers I bought a ford escort wheel because all the holes were in the right place. Trouble is, I didn’t take enough measurements and found all the holes were the wrong diameter (even though in the right place) and the offset was about 30mm to great. I think the model was too recent and not a pre 70s so an earlier escort (or consul) may fit.
JBJ, the wrecker who suggested early datsun or corolla used 1 of his many templates to come to his conclusion. He gets many calls for them but cannot supply them. (probably acting as artificial reefs somewhere)
Humpyboy – you had me going there for a while.
DC3Td, the van I need wheels for is a New Zealand CrestaCraft and I believe all their mechanical parts were imported from England (the windows were too)
I would have liked to have seen a date stamp but no luck.
The interior ply is stamped “Japan”.
Thanks again – I will keep searching.
Phil.
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Post by hilldweller on Feb 17, 2012 17:19:32 GMT 10
Hi Phil that wheel looks very much like the Austin A55 wheels on my van, which is also a NZ van.
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Post by RollyDog on Feb 19, 2012 22:41:43 GMT 10
The first thing that comes to mind is a Morris 1100.
My NZ van had Mini wheels (10 inch) that I sinply changed the axle and replaced with the more common Datsun pattern in a 13 inch.
Rollydog
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Post by philouise on Feb 20, 2012 12:05:01 GMT 10
Thanks Hilldweller(great renovation on your van) and Rollydog. I will be contacting local Austin/Morris enthusiasts and hope that i come by some wheels. Early japanese cars don't seem to have any local following. I wish i had thought about wheels at the Toowoomba Swap Meet. Cheers Phil |
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Post by dirtyclarry on Feb 20, 2012 19:43:32 GMT 10
Adelaide wheel and rim ---could make them i would imagine ...Clarry
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Post by philouise on Mar 7, 2012 16:01:48 GMT 10
Hi and thanks again. I have found Morris Major wheels but the centre hole and the stud radius is smaller than i require. I guess Austin will be the same. However, i found 2 of these.  From a Toyota Corona - 14 inch - great - except they are too wide so the van wheel arch will have to be modified - no no no says Louise.  So i modified the tyre. Still looking for at least 1 not so wide for a spare for the 2 original Cheers. Phil |
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Post by hilldweller on Mar 7, 2012 17:15:36 GMT 10
I've had another look at yours against the Caravelle's and I still reckon Austin's worth investigating. See if you can google and get a good pic to compare. Love the 'modified' tyre!
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Post by DC3Td on Mar 7, 2012 18:32:44 GMT 10
Gives new meaning to 'putting air in a tyre'. gordon
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Post by yonnee on Mar 7, 2012 22:57:15 GMT 10
A 4-1/2" PCD should measure 80.82mm between adjacent studs, so this concurs with your measurement.
Morris/Austin did run a 4-1/2" stud pattern on the 1100, 1300 & 1500, but my listing shows it as a 12" rim, and running 7/16" studs. Being that the hub is of British descent, then chances are the rim is from a similar origin. If that alloy rim is from a Toyota Corona, then that also confirms the stud pattern is 4 x 4-1/2" PCD, which is a pretty common 4 stud pattern used by Nissan (Datsun), Toyota and Mitsubishi in the 70's and 80's on most of their small to medium car ranges.
Maybe look at having the studs replaced with 7/16" ones, and then you'd have a range of wheels to pick from.
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Post by q4016lanz on Mar 8, 2012 16:30:26 GMT 10
Hi mate the early 4 stud falcon will be the same patern as toyota
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Post by philouise on Mar 9, 2012 15:58:18 GMT 10
Thanks again Guys & Gal.
One wrecker suggested Datsun 180B (but didn't have any)
I will keep trying for early Austin and maybe a 13" Corona standard wheel (if they made them) and now i will add early Falcon to my list (i hadn't thought of them - only seen later 5 stud).
I will change the stud size if i have to but my problem seems to be more of finding the right stud pattern diameter and the centre hub bore.
Cheers.
Phil.
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Post by kaybee on Mar 20, 2012 20:17:07 GMT 10
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Post by 1954homemade on Jul 22, 2012 9:46:07 GMT 10
Hi Phil & Louise,
Lovely to touch base with you yesterday.
I am just giving this thread a bump for you, in the hope that any new members might have some wheels hiding at home.
Regards
Di
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Post by greedy53 on Jul 22, 2012 18:00:40 GMT 10
they look to be 4x100 common size wheel and stud pattern but if you want origional for the vintage lookyou could go to 14 inch up to 16 inch
good luck
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Post by RollyDog on Jul 22, 2012 20:59:05 GMT 10
If the wheels you got (similar to a Hurricane) came from a Toyota then there are a few options. Early Falcon four stud would give you the option of a nice centre cap.
Datsun 1600 to 180 B - after that the 200B etc went to 14's. Datsun 1200 - Sunny used 12's then 13s . Corolla stayed 13 but the wheel design is a bit ordinary for a Vintage caravan.
Check the Ford wreckers for the Falcon wheels.
Rollydog.
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