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Post by Franklin1 on Dec 16, 2010 9:14:46 GMT 10
NOTE: Caravans manufactured and/or sold under the Scenic name were also produced by three manufacturers/dealers:
- Late 50's/early 60's: M R Hamence in South Australia -click here
- 1960's through to late 80's or early 90's: Barry Nicholls (this thread)
- 1990's ownwards: Spaceline in Victoria
None of these manufacturers are connected as far as we are aware at this point.
Reading through the June 1990 edition of Caravan World magazine, there's an article about Scenic Caravans. The story says farmer Barry Nicholls founded the company about 38 years ago [which would make it 1952] and has been selling caravans under his own trading name ever since. In that period Barry has moved three times - each time buying a larger yard in Dandenong on a major highway. Soooo...Barry Nicholls...1952...Dandenong...Scenic caravans. Nothing in the DHL section. A search of the forum finds lots of "scenic" views from Daggsey travelling around Oz, but nothing about Scenic caravans. Anything in the Winser books?? cheers, Al.
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Post by firefighter on Dec 16, 2010 9:18:04 GMT 10
  G,Day Al Scenic caravans I belive ONLY sold caravans not made them still there today at 177 Frankston rd Dandenong My vintage Roadhaven van was bought from them by the bloke I bought it from .........it was stored in a shed down the back away from the sales area apparently the old bloke kept it as a collectable van f/f ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Franklin1 on Dec 16, 2010 9:30:29 GMT 10
But does "selling caravans under his own trading name" mean he was perhaps rebadging other brands, as per Norm Reeman and others?
In 1990, their advertisement says: "Scenic Caravans. Our reputation is from building one of the finest caravans available in Australia today. Specialists in custom building for over 30 years at no extra cost to you."
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Post by bobt on Dec 16, 2010 20:31:43 GMT 10
Hi Guys
No they are not something else rebranded
A company in (I believe) Epping build specifically for Scenic, have so for years.
Scenic changed hands a couple of months ago.
The same van is sold in Adelaide as the Island Star.
No one else sells them
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2010 21:36:17 GMT 10
Hi all,Scenic vans are made by Spaceland caravans in Melbourne.
They are sold as Island star in SA,and Norseman in Tas.In the past Scenics were also rebadged Haciendas and Newlands caravans among others that escape my memory at present!
Cheers
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Post by Don Ricardo on Dec 18, 2010 22:13:15 GMT 10
Hi Franklin1, I can't find any reference to Scenic caravans in any of the copies of Winser I have access to, so it looks like Scenic will remain a mystery for the time being - at least in relation to its involvement in the caravan industry in the early and later 50's. I have seen later caravans with the Scenic label on them, but that doesn't help in relation to the earlier history. Hi all,Scenic vans are made by Spaceland caravans in Melbourne. They are sold as Island star in SA,and Norseman in Tas.In the past Scenics were also rebadged Haciendas and Newlands caravans among others that escape my memory at present! Cheers hughdeani I note Hughdeani's reference to Scenics being rebadged Hacienda and Newland vans. If memory serves me right, those brands began in the 80's. Is that correct, Hughdeani? Don Ricardo |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2010 8:46:58 GMT 10
Yes Don,
Hacienda were the 80s but Newlands were I think in the late 60s early 70s.There are also bondwood Scenics getting around!Now that will open another can of worms!
hughdeani
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Post by Don Ricardo on Sept 11, 2011 18:56:05 GMT 10
Scenic 15 ft caravan posted for sale on the forum by Pepi on 4 February 2011:      
On 5 February 2011, Franklin1 posted:G'day Pepi, Have a read through the Coronet History thread, and see if you think the van in the brochure in Reply #1 is the same as yours. Click on this link. If you read further down that thread, you'll see the brochure was believed to be from 1960, so your van would be from around that same time period. cheers, Al.
On the same date Kustombruce advised that Pepi's van was almost identical to his Hawthorn van which had previously been confirmed as a Coronet-built van by Tenoroc.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Sept 11, 2011 19:03:15 GMT 10
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Post by Don Ricardo on Dec 15, 2013 20:34:50 GMT 10
On 4 February 2012, forum member Hunstman wrote about the Huntsman caravans built by his parents in Ballarat:
Mum and Dad got together yesterday and created a listing of those people that they could remember making vans for. Might be a bit incomplete but some good info came out.
Lylack - Jack and Lyla Kelly - Preston VIC
Roma - 2 vans built.
Phoenix - Don Chrisfield
Bluebird - Mike Collins - Melbourne. Mike went on to operate Vicount Caravans in Vic.
Star - Albert June - Arrarat and Mildura
Lonsdale - Ian Thompson - Melbourne
Classic and Scenic - Barry Nichols - Melbourne
Cedar - George Backan - Melbourne
Bee Keepers - 14' tandems - Maryborough VIC
Private sale to a lady in Melbourne of a 23' tandem under Huntsman banner
(Emphasis added)
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Post by Don Ricardo on Sept 15, 2014 21:54:43 GMT 10
28 ft Scenic tandem caravan advertised on Ebay, December 2011:   This van has a mid-section galley and dinette, with separate bedrooms at each end. Front bedroom with two single beds:  Looking from front to rear:  Galley:  Rear bedroom with four bunks:  Looking from rear to front:  As we understand it Scenic caravans were built by various manufacturers, and not by Scenic itself. Hughdeani may be able to tell us the origins of this van. Don Ricardo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 22:19:24 GMT 10
Hi Don,
Looks like a Coronet to me!
Maybe Scenic used them too.
Cheers
hughdeani
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Post by Don Ricardo on Apr 10, 2015 18:33:05 GMT 10
On 28 February 2015, Don posted photos of the following Scenic caravan here:  
On 10 April 2015, 68adventurer commented:
Hi Don, The front shot of the Scenic looks very similar to our Adventurer, wonder if it could be related. Someone mentioned Rowvan here. Iain
To which Don Ricardo responded on the same day:Hi 68adventurer, Your post this afternoon caused me to go back and look at the photos of the Scenic caravan posted by Don above, and also to look at the photos of your 1968 Adventurer. While there are some general similarities between your Adventurer and the Scenic, there are also a number of differences. Look for instance at the shape of the bulkhead above the front windows, where yours is completely rounded, but the one on the Scenic curves around to then be completely flat where it leads in to the windows. I'm certain that means that the Scenic is not an Adventurer. Adventurer (and Scenic) were also quite separate to Rowvan, and the Scenic does not fit the Rowvan mould. I think the Scenic was probably one of the caravans branded 'Scenic' under a badge-engineering arrangement by the Scenic caravan company in Victoria. The badge is very similar in shape, etc, but not in colour, to the Scenic badges put on Victorian Scenic caravans – see above on this thread for examples… I am hoping that someone who is more familiar with caravans from the 60's, such as Hughdeani, may be able to help us work out the origins and manufacturer of the Scenic van Don has written about.
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Post by don on Apr 10, 2015 18:45:30 GMT 10
Hi when I get time I will take some side shots......Don
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 22:22:37 GMT 10
Hi all,
That Scenic was made by Newlands,nothing to do with Adventurer.
Newlands have a "softer" shape than the adventurer,and a totally different interior.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
hughdeani
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Post by Don Ricardo on Apr 10, 2015 22:38:15 GMT 10
Thanks Hughdeani. I thought you might be able to help us.  Any idea of the approximate year? Vintage or Classic? Don Ricardo |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 23:03:26 GMT 10
Hi Don,
I would guesstimate 1969or1970,
Hope this helps
hughdeani
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Post by Don Ricardo on Dec 13, 2018 20:46:06 GMT 10
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Post by Don Ricardo on Mar 18, 2019 17:05:30 GMT 10
Photos of a late 1960's Scenic-branded caravan built by Newlands:  For more photos of this van click here
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Post by Don Ricardo on Oct 16, 2021 21:41:46 GMT 10
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Post by Don Ricardo on Oct 17, 2021 19:47:36 GMT 10
Hi all, Hughdeany has let me know that Skyyline59's Scenic tandem shown in the post immediately above was built by Coronet. Always good to make these connections, especially for the caravan dealers like Scenic that sourced their vans from various manufacturers. Don Ricardo |
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Post by shelleytreml on Apr 22, 2023 11:14:55 GMT 10
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Post by hughdeany on Apr 22, 2023 15:03:29 GMT 10
Hi Shelley,
Your van is a Scenic by Spaceline,about 23 ft body plus 4 ft A frame which puts it at 27 ft.They didn’t have model names,they just went by size.
Hope this helps
Cheers
hughdeany
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