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Post by hitched on Mar 11, 2011 20:29:36 GMT 10
Hi - We have built a generous car port shelter for the 1950s Roma but I am concerned a carport may not be sufficient for a bondwood caravan - I would welcome any advice in regards to protecting the exterior of bondwood vans - thanks Hitched
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Post by hitched on Mar 11, 2011 20:35:26 GMT 10
here is a photo of Roma's current accommodation
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Post by Don Ricardo on Mar 11, 2011 21:57:36 GMT 10
G'day Hitched, Nice to hear from you again, and good to see a pic of the Roma in all its glory. It really is a lovely van. You've asked about whether your carport will provide sufficient protection for the van. My comment based on experience with our van is that the more all round protection you can give it the better. Thus if you can fill in the sides of the carport it will be to the benefit of your van. We have a 60 year old bondwood van which has lived all its life (apart from when we've been using it) in a garage or covered in carport. It is in good nick because it has been protected in this way. Two years ago when we moved house, the van had to be accommodated in a temporary shelter with open sides. Admittedly, the shelter was not as good as your carport, but I was shocked at the amount of deterioration I saw in the van in the six months or so it was there. It is now in a fully enclosed extension to our garage which we were fortunate enough to be able to build to house the van. However, what I saw was enough to convince me that covered in sides (and front and back) are worth it if you are in a position to provide them. Other forum members also store their vans in carports, some with open sides, so they can tell you what they think. However that's my two cents worth!  Don Ricardo |
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Post by hitched on Mar 11, 2011 22:04:16 GMT 10
Thanks Don for your response, I tend to agree with you, hence my concern for Roma's welfare, will have to give it some more thought - regards H
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Post by jenniewren on Mar 16, 2011 12:42:13 GMT 10
Totally agree with Don Ricardo - after my vv being stored in a shed for 30+ years... whilst renovating, it was out in the elements so that I could work on it! It was sitting in the open for 8 months...actually it did not really do any damage but I was concerned nonetheless that it was long enough! The only visible side effect was it had gone a little sea sick (green moss) on the alum. The wooden sides & paintwork still as good as the day of purchase. The moss/gum tree juice came off with detergent and a soft brush quite easily. Although I would love to build a fully enclosed shed - the almighty council will not approve another structure on the property - I am currently looking at a portable carport from Supercheap auto and some how build in the end & sides! But don't want it to look tacky & detract from existing garage & house! So I would be interested also in other comments and perhaps how to do it???
You have a very cute Roma - one to be protected at all costs! J
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Post by beetlesbailey on Apr 6, 2011 15:36:12 GMT 10
when we retored "THE HIGHWAY PALACE" we coated the whole outside with fibreglass matt using 'BOTE COTE' glue rather than resin.
It works well but is not cheap.
I did the same with my teardrop as well as a mate's.
teardrops cost us about $350 each to do and I'd do it again.
I was advised that rayon cloth is good instead of 'glass too.
Beetles
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Post by hitched on Apr 10, 2011 18:16:32 GMT 10
Thanks for that advice Beatles - as well as building in the shelter we are looking at repainting Roma - I would be interested to know other peoples experiences and opinions re coating with fibreglass.
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Post by jimandmoz on Jul 26, 2011 1:22:00 GMT 10
hello all iam going to have to recoat roof the big thing it has got painted canvas on it now i would like to know what is the most practical thing to redo it with its 7m x 2.4m thanks jim
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 16:43:52 GMT 10
Hi Jim. The First thing i will advise you is to NOT sand the roof. Your right.. the roof is Canvas ( calico) over plywood. If the canvas is not ripped or threadbare anywhere then simply give it a good wash with warm soapy water and a soft sponge. Let it dry thoroughly and then give it a wipe over with mineral turps to remove any sticky rubbish that the warm soapy water has not removed. If the roof has aluminium "J "mould at its edges where it meets the walls check that the canvas is under the edge all the way along the roof both sides and down the front and back. Look for any spots where water might have got uner the j mould. If it has then clean under the edge with with something thin to get the dirt out and then apply a bead of sealant to the edge where the roof meats the mould. Use a sealant that hasnt got silica in it otherwise the paint wont take to it. Give the roof at least 2 coats of oil based paint.... whatever colour you like. Wattyl Solargaurd is good. Ok .. if you dont like oil based paint you could use waterbase up there. I have just done the roof on my van ... it was done with oil based enamel silver frost. A Fairway van i owned a few years back had a similar roof that was painted light green. Main thing to remember is dont try sanding the roof... it will stuff the canvas.... then you will have a huge job ahead of you stripping off the roof and reglueing down new canavs...  Hope this helps.. Regards Reddo |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 16:47:24 GMT 10
Thanks for that advice Beatles - as well as building in the shelter we are looking at repainting Roma - I would be interested to know other peoples experiences and opinions re coating with fibreglass. Hi Hitched... Not sure what condition your van is in or why you would be thinking of fibreglassing over it. One issue i can see is that it would make the van a lot heavier. Secondly.... it would encase any dampness inside the ply and in the long run create more problems. Regards Reddo |
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Post by Daggsey on Jul 26, 2011 22:40:48 GMT 10
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Post by cobber on Jul 27, 2011 8:56:23 GMT 10
Good advice from Don R and Reddo, including the use of Wattle Solarguard.... which is a 100% acrylic water based paint Daggsey is being provocative at 10:40 pm.... he knows I'm in bed by then  . This link is to the Engineered Wood Products Association.... they know about plywood. And this link takes you to what they say about painting plywood www.ewp.asn.au/library/tut_ply/finishesexterior.htmlALL plywood manufacturers will advise that 100% acrylic water based paints is best on exterior ply and will refer you back to the EWPA web site and their recommendations. Cobber. |
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Post by Daggsey on Jul 27, 2011 10:10:19 GMT 10
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Post by jimandmoz on Jul 28, 2011 23:20:37 GMT 10
hello im back the canvas calico is buggard all of the ply is good apart from last 300mm at back calico is held on with 2 bits of 1/4 round onthe side of the raised roof and 1bit on side of the van 1/4 round is ali is all saveable look like new calico how hard can it be thanks jim
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Post by jimandmoz on Jul 28, 2011 23:30:38 GMT 10
i take it calico painted on then over is just for water proofing is there any other sucksessfull hate big words ways of doing this thanks jim
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Post by millsy on Aug 17, 2011 23:17:01 GMT 10
I have been waterproofing and repairing my 60 year old bond wood van using old cotton sheets that my wife throws out. I paint on patches of cotton cloth over sections of the exterior ply that are cracking open. I just use acrylic paint. I first paint the deteriorating surface, then put the patch onto the wet paint, and then paint over the cotton patch to fill the cotton with paint.
I thin the paint a bit, but not too much. Or use a thinner mixture in the gluing process, and then let it dry. Then go back over the dried, or part dried, patch with a thicker mixture to fill the pores and weatherproof the patch leaving a smooth glossy finish when dried.
My van has sat in the weather since I bought it 35 years ago. I have found that these cotton patches last many years. I put some patches on back in the early eighties and they are still doing a geat job of preventing the old ply from opening up in the sun and rain.
Of course if you want to do a neat job you would need to cover the whole side of the van with cotton so their are no 'edge bumps' as there are on smaller patches.
The roof has some sort of thicker covering over the ply. Maybe a bitumized or rubberized fabric. I don't think it is canvas. Where it has cracked open I have just used strips of cotton sheet and painted these strips over these crack lines also. Seems to work quite well. And provided the roof gets it recooat of paint about once every three years, or even once every two if you are keen, the cloth patches last 'forever'.
This method is how the old wooden gliders used to be built. I used to be member of the Barossa Valley Gliding Club and have restored one of the gliders. As well as the wings being 'bagged' in cotton material, or dacron these days, the fuselage ply is also covered in a layer of simple cottn material, just like a bed sheet. So that's where I got the idea from.
Just lately I have even used the same method to repair rust cracks appearing in my old galvanized rainwater tank. A 5 minute job and it works very well. Basically it prevents oxygen from getting to the iron from the outside, so the rusting process is slowed right down.
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