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Post by Roehm3108 on Feb 21, 2011 15:23:16 GMT 10
Some of you guys may have seen this van advertised on that unmentionable site. I don't see any mention of them in the DHL section, so does anyone know much about them? Looks like a pommie van, but then, how would I know   |
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Post by Cruz on Feb 21, 2011 15:32:21 GMT 10
Hi,
Built across the ditch.
Cruz
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Post by Roehm3108 on Feb 21, 2011 16:08:54 GMT 10
That was my second guess cruz ;D ;D
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Post by Don Ricardo on Feb 22, 2011 11:13:21 GMT 10
Hi Roehm and Cruz, You sent me scurrying to DHL to check the index, because I knew we've got a thread there (posted it myself   . Yep, it is there - just look under 'Crusader'. Cruz is correct - Crusaders did come from 'across the dutch' but apparently at one stage they also started building them in Wangaratta. We don't know anything about that phase of their history, so if anybody knows anything it would be interesting to hear. Don Ricardo |
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Post by Roehm3108 on Feb 22, 2011 16:44:35 GMT 10
Sorry all - cleaned my glasses and sure enuff, found the thread. Thanks DR
The one on that unmentionable site seems like another model to those shown in DHL. They are a rather cute van!! That unmentionable site one looks like it quite clean. If anybody wants me to inspect it for them, it's not too far for me (any excuse to see it in the flesh!!! ;D ;D)
Ray
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Post by millhouse on Feb 22, 2011 19:36:00 GMT 10
That van from that unmentionable site is now all mine.
My first caravan ever.
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Post by retro64 on Feb 22, 2011 20:01:27 GMT 10
Hi millhouse,
Congratulations on owning your very first van. We wish you many years of joy with it.
Cheers retro64
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Post by jenniewren on Feb 22, 2011 20:08:08 GMT 10
That was a quick purchase! Did not even get an opportunity to check it out! Congrats Millhouse...you will love this vv world we live in...VERY addictive!
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Post by Roehm3108 on Feb 23, 2011 6:23:45 GMT 10
What a great way to start your v/vanning career! It looks like a beaut van - just hitch up and go. Congrats and enjoy!! Maybe DHL can be updated to include this model??
Ray
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Post by Don Ricardo on Feb 23, 2011 21:39:10 GMT 10
Hi Roehm and Millhouse, Is the Crusader we're talking about this one here? Or is it another one? If it's the latter (ie not this one), if someone can give me a link to the E*** advertisement I will gladly post it on the DHL thread. Unfortunately since we went and banned E*** listings it can be hard to track down an item once it's been sold.  By the way - congratulations on your purchase, Millhouse, and welcome to the forum!  Don Ricardo [Now I'm in the naughty corner because I included an E*** link in my post  but my excuse is that "I was just doing some research..."  ] |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 22:50:43 GMT 10
 forum member Bugsys crusader at nelligen....   I had the opportunity to buy an immaculate Crusader at Portland Vic in 2008 on the way to the Vint van nats at Mt Gambier.. $3500. I declined the offer. It has since been sold. I have colour photos of that van. It was identical inside and out to Bugsys. Front kitchen. dark redish brown cloth upholstery . woodgrain cupboard doors. I think it had 2 single beds .. one either side at the rear of the van. Circa 1965/6 or maybe as late as 1970. Definitley made in Un Zud as it has the large front and rear windows. A requirement by law in NZ for registration. Which is completely negated when you fit aluminium stone gaurd awnings over the windows...  Hope this helps. Reddo
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Post by Roehm3108 on Feb 24, 2011 11:08:44 GMT 10
Yep, that's the van DR
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Post by case on Feb 24, 2011 18:45:53 GMT 10
Hi Ray, I met you in Mildura last year, when I saw your message about the Crusader I was not home and could not get on the forum. I inspected this van 2x and was interested but not at that price, outside very good but needed a fair bit of work inside, the owner was upset with my offer, but the worth of anything is what you are willing to pay, good luck to Millsy.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Feb 24, 2011 22:01:08 GMT 10
Definitley made in Un Zud as it has the large front and rear windows. A requirement by law in NZ for registration. G'day Reddo, Interesting you should make that comment. Similar comments have been made a number of times on the forum. However a couple of years ago when I was trying to track down the origins of a caravan I thought may have come from New Zealand, I had an email discussion with one of our forum members who is/was a caravan dealer in NZ. At one point the discussion with her turned to the question of the reason for the large front and rear windows common in New Zealand vans, and I mentioned the bit about our understanding that they were required by law. The NZ forum member told me that that was not correct and that she did not believe there had ever been such a law. Now that I have a fraction more knowledge about NZ and UK vans - let's say my knowledge has gone from 1 mm to 3 mm ;D ;D ;D - I have started to think about an alternative theory for the large windows. My theory (and that's all that it is) is that the windows were just a styling thing in NZ caravan design, a bit like Aussie caravans in the early 60's for whatever reason often had massive rounded bulkheads above the front window. In the case of NZ, caravan design seems to have been influenced much more by UK caravan designs than was the case in Australia. In fact quite a lot of NZ vans in the 50's and 60's (and maybe even now) were imported from the UK, either complete or as CKD units, and UK vans tend to have quite large windows front and rear. A number of Australian caravan manufacturers started exporting vans to NZ in the 80's and onwards (Jayco, Avan, etc) and those vans all had and have standard sized Aussie front and rear windows. So if a law ever existed re large windows it seems like it had "gone out the window" by then. Your comment and the comments of others on the forum may be correct. I'm just telling you what our NZ member said. She seemed pretty definite about there never having been a legal requirement.  Maybe there are some other NZ forum members who may be able to throw some light on this? Don Ricardo |
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Post by Roehm3108 on Feb 25, 2011 15:46:12 GMT 10
Hi Case,
Yes, I remember meeting you at Mildura. Hope you are still keeping well.
Ray
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Post by millhouse on Feb 25, 2011 19:09:48 GMT 10
Thank you for the kind words and I hope your are all right about enjoying the van. I cannot wait to restore it with advice from everyone here. Here are some photos.    |
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Post by Don Ricardo on Feb 25, 2011 20:34:03 GMT 10
Hi Millhouse, What a great little van! Congratulations. I hope you spend many happy hours both restoring it and using it. Turns out that you, Roehm3108 and I were talking about different Crusaders! The one I was talking about (and possibly Roehm?) was a larger, and I think later, model that was on Ebay at the same time, apparently. Yours looks to be pretty similar if not identical to the 1964 and 1965 Crusaders shown on the Crusader thread in the Down History Lane section. Does that sort of date fit with what you've been told about yours? By the way how long is your van? It looks like about 9 feet, but maybe it's a bit larger? Don Ricardo |
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Post by case on Feb 26, 2011 13:41:37 GMT 10
Hi Don. When in N Z at the time I noticed all vans had the peaked roof shape same as the english vans , would this be for possible snow loads ? That is why I it drew my attention when seeing it advertised.
Boblor tells me these vans were sold or imported by a firm called Noble. Regards Case.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Feb 26, 2011 18:33:07 GMT 10
Hi Case,
I guess the peaked rooves could be for the snow load. Or maybe just to run the water off more effectively than the non-peaked rooves we have in Oz? I've noticed that if our van rooves get a bit of 'sag' in them over time then water can pool there for a while. That might be a problem in wetterand colder climates where the water on the roof takes longer to evaporate.
I haven't heard mention of a person called Noble importing/selling Crusader caravans in Australia. Doesn't mean that Boblor is not correct though (he usually is!).
The name I've seen mentioned (and on a plate on a Crusader van) is Anthony Motors. Maybe Mr/Ms Noble was connected to Anthony Motors?
Don Ricardo
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Post by case on Feb 27, 2011 16:28:47 GMT 10
Hi Ray and Don. The Crusader you and I are talking about is not the one Millhouse bought, The one advertised on the unmentionable is the one I inspected twice. It is advertised as a 15 ft but is actually 14ft 2 inch x 7 ft 4.5 inch wide. it has been reclad very nicely, the 3 front windows do open and have new seals, the 3 rear windows are fixed. The front windows are the same as my 1967 Olympic Debonair I am restoring so I suggest the van is 1967. The kitchen-bench is laminex with a white bowl bolted under.With other things inside needs restoring.I upset the owner with my offer. Regards Case.
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. Yep, it is there - just look under 'Crusader'.
