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Post by stephen&Julie on Aug 13, 2016 21:51:22 GMT 10
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Post by Roehm3108 on Aug 14, 2016 11:53:49 GMT 10
Hi Guys
Great find!! Was this the van that sat on a block near Patonga on the Central Coast?
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Post by stephen&Julie on Aug 14, 2016 12:21:12 GMT 10
Not sure Ray, still gathering info, can't believe this van has been on the market for so long, have ordered new axle,springs and the welder is lined up for a new A frame,not a great deal to get back on the road
Cheers
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Post by cobber on Aug 14, 2016 13:05:30 GMT 10
G'day Stephen & Julie, Very interesting, another flat aluminium van built in 1947, yours in Sydney, mine I am surmising also built in Sydney  is your exterior aluminium fixed with rivets or slot head bolts, is it thick, something like 1.5mm thick ? Yours at least has interior lining and what appears to be conventional timber furniture  Are there any indications that it may have some aeronautical heritage   Questions questions, sorry  Cobber. |
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Post by stephen&Julie on Aug 14, 2016 15:17:53 GMT 10
Was built approx 1947 sydney by an Austrian immigrant, could be aeronautical has that feel.All slot head screw/bolts,not sure on the thickness but looks around 1.5mm, very well constructed, chassis is angle with cast fittings in corners, looks like a timber frame, will look closer after pickup
Cheers S&J
'YES' looks like its from the Gosford/Patonga area
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Post by Mustang on Aug 14, 2016 17:57:05 GMT 10
Love the tap & all the lawn mowers!!!!
The tin roof has done its job over the years.
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Post by Roehm3108 on Aug 14, 2016 22:12:56 GMT 10
I'm sure this van was on ebay a few years back. From memory, there were actually two vans, the other not near as old as this one. I have wondered what ever happened to that van. Are you guys planning to restore it???
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Post by stephen&Julie on Aug 15, 2016 11:08:53 GMT 10
Sure are, hopefully it doesn't have many hidden surprises, firstly will get some running gear back under then will go from there cheers S&J
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Post by mel on Aug 15, 2016 11:57:58 GMT 10
I saw this one advertised also. So glad to see it has gone to a good home.
Love the screen door and all the green door handles.
Can't wait to see it all done up.
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Post by Roehm3108 on Aug 15, 2016 12:10:18 GMT 10
Great to hear you're planning to restore this great lady! To my mind, any lantern-roofed van is worthy of restoration!
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Post by stephen&Julie on Aug 19, 2016 5:57:45 GMT 10
Information update, yes there was a van on eBay around 4 years ago, this one was sitting behind the van advertised, the van advertised was bought by the gentlemen and during the process he asked what was going on with the old van down the back, she replied are you interested in that old thing cause where about to take it to the tip, lucky he rang his brother to take it or another great piece of traveling history would have been lost,there you go  Cheers S&J |
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Post by mel on Aug 19, 2016 14:50:43 GMT 10
I can't understand the concept of taking things that are still functional to the tip. At our local tip, we have a staff member that jumps down into the pit and pulls back out things that are still usable!! People drive past tip shop (where you can drop things off for free and they will be re-sold), and instead pay a fee to dump their stuff in a hole in the ground. Such a waste.
When I bought my latest van, the seller told me that her son wanted to take the van up the bush with his mates and burn it!!!
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Post by stephen&Julie on Aug 22, 2016 18:06:06 GMT 10
Hi, Loaded up and headed home, looking forward to this restoration     Cheers S&J |
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Post by stephen&Julie on Aug 23, 2016 20:03:13 GMT 10
Hi, all set up and ready for part 1 of the makeover,new tow gear   Cheers S&J |
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Post by tasmillard on Aug 28, 2016 18:03:14 GMT 10
Good find stephen, look forward to your progress |
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Post by stephen&Julie on Sept 7, 2016 19:50:56 GMT 10
Looking for ideas on period correct tail lights/blinkers for the 47 Homemade and where I might chase them down  Cheers in advance Stephen&Julie |
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Post by DC3Td on Sept 7, 2016 21:09:58 GMT 10
Hi S&J. Great van to restore. Perhaps go with wheels/lights from a vehicle of the build year. gordo
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Post by cobber on Sept 8, 2016 9:57:23 GMT 10
G'day S & J I like these Campbell lights either fitted to the van or on a trailer board.  And as 65valiant showed us in this post they can be found if you'r lucky. There are lots of good ideas on the old stop-turn-tail-lights-reflector thread All you have to do is locate the lights you want, and if anybody can do that I reckon you can Cobber, |
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Post by grandad on Sept 8, 2016 11:03:01 GMT 10
To the best of my knowledge, turn signals were not common in 1947. I've tried Googling a history of light regs in Australia and found nothing so I'm having to go on memory. Not a good thing by the way.
When we first arrived in Australia in 1960 my Dad had to demonstrate he knew all the hand signals but was "Allowed" to use the indicators. Not all cars had indicator lights.
I've owned 2 late 40's early 50's English cars and both had tail lights only that were switched on by an external push/pull light switch at the rear of the car.
In the early 60's it was common to see both English and American cars that had clearly had amber indicators retro fitted. In the case of American cars this was because the standard indicators were more often than not red in colour. With English cars, indicator lights weren't fitted as standard. My early model Morris has "Trafficators" or semaphores fitted. These weren't suitable in Oz.
Mechanical indicators on trucks and buses were still commonly seen. And caravan owners could buy a strap on version.
So, in short, I would suspect that in 1947 your van probably had a single combined tail light and license plate light in the centre of the van with an external switch..
At some point, they would have retrofitted indicator lights. With very few exceptions, these would be round, small glass lenses. No plastic. Seeing that you would now be obliged to have all lights fitted that's what I would go with.
Lucas comes to mind as the manufacturer. Having them mounted on the bumper bar like yours are now would be a logical choice.
Hope that helps and maybe somebody with better Google skills can get more accurate for you.
Cheers
jim
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Post by grandad on Sept 8, 2016 11:06:09 GMT 10
I left my post for a while as a visitor arrived and in the meantime Cobber answered. The lights pictured are exactly what I was trying to describe. Spot on.
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Post by grandad on Sept 8, 2016 11:23:47 GMT 10
These are the mechanical indicators I was referring to.  It would be super cool to see these fitted to a restored 1940's van and vehicle. You'd probably getting pinged by the boys in blue as a "Protrusion" now if you had it fitted on the road but to have one fitted in camp on a gathering of vintage vans would be great. Not sure where you'd find one. Cobber? You ever seen one? Jim |
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Post by cobber on Sept 8, 2016 14:09:51 GMT 10
G'day grandad, Yes I remember them haven't seen one Lately though. They had a little lever that you could pull to make the hand go vertical to indicate you were going to stop or turn left, vehicles behind just had to wait and see what happened. They worked quite well, they are a bit like FJ Holdens ...... I don't know why they stopped making them Cobber. |
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Post by mel on Sept 8, 2016 21:36:49 GMT 10
These lights on Kaybee's Hawthorn look similar Repro '48 ford lights  |
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Post by Don Ricardo on Sept 21, 2016 23:19:45 GMT 10
...Mechanical indicators on trucks and buses were still commonly seen. And caravan owners could buy a strap on version. So, in short, I would suspect that in 1947 your van probably had a single combined tail light and license plate light in the centre of the van with an external switch.. At some point, they would have retrofitted indicator lights. With very few exceptions, these would be round, small glass lenses. No plastic. Seeing that you would now be obliged to have all lights fitted that's what I would go with... G'day Grandad and Stephen&Julie, I'm coming late to the party on this one, but I thought I might provide a link that could be useful. There is some information on the caravan regulations in different states from the 50's here. They would apply to the 1947 lantern top. Grandad is right about the single combined tail/stop and licence plate light, except that the regulations of the time allowed it to be placed either in the centre of the rear (as Grandad said), or on the right side. The other point to note is that, although cars were required to have an external switch for the tail light on the rear mudguard adjacent to the light, it was permissable for the switch for the tail light on a caravan to be placed inside the van. The switch inside our 1949 Don is still operational. And of course there were no turn lights at that stage. Grandad's comment about the mechanical trafficator arms brought back a flood of memories. If I remember correctly, the arms actually had a lever which, once the arm was lifted into signalling position, allowed the mechanical hand to be raised into the vertical position to indicate 'Stop' or to be placed into a horizontal position to indicate turning 'Right'. If I again remember correctly, you indicated the 'Stop' position to turn 'Left'. Ah memories... Don Ricardo |
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