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Post by jenny on Feb 7, 2008 8:39:17 GMT 10
I was wondering whether anyone in your club has any information on our new purchase. We are a caravan sales yard in Christchurch New Zealand but restore vintage caravans for ourselves as an interest. We have just purchased an English Burlingham Sandringham 1956 which was imported to NZ in the late 1950's and has had 2 NZ owners. It is in fairly good order but we would like to restore it back to its original glory. We were told there were only 2 of the Sandringham models made but we are not sure how correct this is. Also we have been told that the roof may originally have been canvas as it is now tin. I have attached a couple of outside shots of the Burlingham plus a few of our NZ 1950 Bellevue restoration. We look forward to any information you may have on Burlingham caravans, history, photos, specs , whatever you have would be greatly appreciated or any direction you can point us . Look forward to your reply Kind regard Jenny & Graham  IMG]http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/jennygraham_2008/Burlingham%20sandringham/3BurlinghamSandringham.jpg[/IMG] IMG]  i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/jennygraham_2008/bellevue/1belle.jpg[/IMG]         |
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Post by cobber on Feb 7, 2008 17:04:28 GMT 10
G'day Jenny, I did notice your post on the UK site but as I have no knowledge on the Burlingham I kept my mouth shut. Any contact Paul gives you will know what they are talking about, you bet. Burlinghams were regarded as equal to Winchesters in their day but that Bellevue looks as though it can hold it's head up high. There are a few folk on this forum who have a soft spot for English ' vans so do keep us up to date with the restoration please & some inside photos of the Burlingham  Cobber. |
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Post by kingy on Feb 7, 2008 20:41:30 GMT 10
Hi jenny & Graham, Know nothing whatsoever about the vans you've shown, but can i say this, the workmanship in some of the English vans we've seen on this forum run rings around our Aussie vans, but on the other hand, i guess a lot more expensive to  - looks a great collection you have Kingy |
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Post by earlee on Feb 7, 2008 20:50:38 GMT 10
gidday jenny, ;D
what an absolutely lovely old english van. Is it about 15' long? I imagine it was a very upmarket van when new - still is! ;D
When you say canvas roof , I take it that is canvas over ply? Maybe the ply is still there under the current tin roof.
Can you please show a close-up pic of the tow coupling?
earlee.
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Post by jenny on Feb 8, 2008 14:41:30 GMT 10
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Post by cobber on Feb 8, 2008 15:25:10 GMT 10
G'day Jenny, Both ' vans are drop dead georgus... apart from the copper water containers does it have a built in water tank as well ? Now a couple of hard questions, especially as you don't have the 'van in your possession at the moment. The coupling and over-ride brake look like "Brockhouse" fittings to me. Could you tell me what the Pat. numbers are on the socket and does the ' van have a "drop axle" and any identifying letters and numbers on it ? The jockey wheel looks interesting too. Love it  Cobber. |
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Post by cornishlass on Feb 8, 2008 20:11:18 GMT 10
Hi
I posted this on the English Forum, but thought I would put it here also just in case you haven't seen it yet..........
Hi Jenny and Graham
Great looking vans, particularly like the Burlingham.
With reference to information about the company, I have some in various publications which I shall try to cobble together and send off to you as soon as possible. I also have in a book an advert which they placed back in about 1947. This states that you could "Inspect these COACHBUILT caravans" at Garstang By-Pass, Garstang, Lancashire which confirms what Paul stated.
Will contact you soon
Cornish Lass
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2008 14:36:14 GMT 10
an absolute beautiful van Jenny  ......you can't beat the English vans for classMark |
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Post by humpty2 on Feb 9, 2008 18:57:43 GMT 10
A lot of similarities to our Carlight Continental, but that Burlingham is far more lavish.
LOVE IT!
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Post by jenny on Feb 15, 2008 14:13:28 GMT 10
Sorry , finally have got the time to answer Cobbers questions! I have added a couple of photos with the numbers on the coupling ...bit hard to read and whichever way up you look at them some of the numbers seem to be upside down. Graham wrote down what he thought they were when he took the photos but in the mean time mis-laid the bit of paper. He said it was very hard to read so see what you can make of it. I have put photos of both ways up!. Yes , I think you are correct about the Brockhouse as Graham found that written reasonably clearly (except for the B)somewhere around the brake (sorry ,he is not here at the moment to confir with) I have also added a photo of the springs, it was too dark for him to look for numbers under there and he was not too sure what you meant by a drop axle so I hope the picture helps. No inboard tanks , only the copper water containers pictured, which we have just had polished up professionally and they look supurb!! Have also added a couple of longer shots of the caravan . It has had the windows and alot of fittings removed .We have a friend starting on tidying the woodwork up and repairing some very minor rot. It's great to have helpers!!!!       Jenny |
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Post by Dave&Tammy on Feb 15, 2008 15:25:02 GMT 10
;)Hi Jenny & Graham, I love the vans their gorgeous Dave & Tammy |
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Post by willyn on Feb 16, 2008 10:14:00 GMT 10
  ;D Hey Jenny apologies Hijacking your thread I guess a boat is a Caravan on the water and my boat was built in 1907 so its Vintage so we will say its a vintage water caravan Your Photo sort of Transported me back in time the inside of your van is virtually Identical to a boat I restored 20 years ago the boat was named Valdavia "Val" boats (As they were affectionately Known) Perths original Swan river supply and Ferry boats working from fremantle to Bayswater There were six original boats there are 3 left  my boat was originally 51 ft I cut 4ft of the bow due to rot and restored it to original and used it for ten years and cyclone tracy ripped her from its moorings and through her on Rockingham beach I repaired her and sold it to a guy who still has her now After the restoration I restored a 35 ft Chinese junk that had previously sunk in fremantle due to a pen lease dispute someone let the boat free after 3 years of use I sold it to an old bloke who had it moored at Blackwall reach for around ten years he would row out to it and have a cup of tea on saturday and guess what did no maintenance and it sunk again I think the boat liked it under water  Perth people may remember the orange and Black Junk around the time of the Americas cup in perth I tried to get a licence for a floating cafe and call it Wills Junk food PS. Teak loves salt water and doesnt rot the planks where 8 inch by 2 inch and teak is known as wooden gold due to its megacost to buy I am thinking of salvaging the boat it is in about 20 ft of water around 100 metres from shore Captain Will 
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Post by cobber on Feb 16, 2008 12:57:45 GMT 10
Thanks Jenny, Funny how the poms seemed to be satisfied with the "bucket and chuck it" system rather than install a water tank, I think that might have been more common than you would expect, is that true Cornishlass . At a guess I would say the numbers on your brake are "B1533-02"... are there other numbers on the ball socket itself ? No you don't have a "drop axle", yours is a straight axle. I ask these dumb questions because these things interest me, and there are web sites where such information can be researched a bit  Cobber. |
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- looks a great collection you have
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