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Post by will and Lyn on Mar 14, 2007 11:05:47 GMT 10
   Mark the holiday Home is the best vintage van that I have seen matched with the Chevy it looked a treat at the Brookton show If any one wants to see a true Masterpiece then sight this van the memorabilia adds to the period but the van itself is a true reflection of Aussie Caravanning as it was in the early days The van is a credit to you Will
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2007 11:53:00 GMT 10
thanx Will .....I'll pay ya later ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2007 11:56:28 GMT 10
Watch him Mark. Those bloody Queenslanders will say anything to get in good with you  He thinks because he is short we wont notice him having a say on the forum. ;D Cratehead from the east |
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Post by aussietanker on Mar 14, 2007 20:24:35 GMT 10
Thanks for the extra info on this caravan mark ...
it really is a very beautiful van with great lines .... i like it almost as much as i like the pre 55-56 Don's ;D ;D ;D ... and that's an awful lot ....
you have done a great job restoring this beauty ... well done ... and thanks for sharing it ...
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Post by belinda on Mar 16, 2007 15:57:32 GMT 10
Hi Mark here is another image of the "Holiday Home".  I found it in the 1948-49 edition of "How to Build Caravans"  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2007 18:36:17 GMT 10
thanks for that Belinda .......gee that 16' Masonite van is something really different ......never seen anything like that from the 40's ......almost looks like it'd be a poptop To find a surviving masonite caravan these days is a bigger challenge than finding a bondy, the material is nowhere near as hard wearing as ply. Its a soft wood, a bit like chipboard. As soon as the weather gets to unpainted masonite, its gone When restoring the Holiday Home, after removing the paint with a geat gun, it was all rubbed down by hand, the masonite being too soft & too easily damaged with any sort of power tool sander .......well in my hands anyway ;D ;D Here's another masonite caravan I purchased a few months ago:  Its a "single skin" masonite caravan from the late 40's ........in amazing condition for its 60 year age |
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Post by Don Ricardo on Mar 17, 2007 9:08:52 GMT 10
Mark, Mark, Mark...
...where do all those wonderful vans come from??
At least now I know why you live in WA: It's the only state big enough for you to locate your caravan shed without crossing state borders!!
Looking forward to seeing some more photos of this van. Interesting flattish roofline for the late 40's. Where did it come from and how much do you know about its history? (If you've already posted photos, apologies - I must have missed it. There's so much happening on the forum now it's hard to keep up with it all...but we wouldn't want it otherwise.)
Nice to see some extra pics of the Holiday Home further up this thread as well. It's a great van. Thanks for posting them. I've been wondering for a while about the length of this van (ie the HH)? I'm guessing 12'??
Don Ricardo
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2007 14:20:02 GMT 10
thanks Don R ......... this van came from Ongerup (near Albany) WA ......I'm yet to do a story & pics on this one. The guy that built it in 1948 is in his late eighties and is the gardener at the Ongerup hospital .....its a big van measuring 16' 9" and has its original full size kero fridge and aladin kero stove. The "Holiday Home" measures 13.5' and weighs 920 kg coz its jarrah framed. mark |
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Post by Don Ricardo on Mar 24, 2007 22:07:26 GMT 10
Mark,
Thanks for telling us a bit more about the Ongerup van. We look forward to seeing and hearing more in due course.
Thanks also for letting me know the length of the Holiday Home...I had been wondering for a while. Jarrah frame, eh? Real WA craftsmanship! They don't make 'em like that anymore do they...and for a reason - weight!!
Now Mark, regarding your latest post on this thread - I sense there is a story to this! Are you going to let us in on it?? Slim Dusty...hmmm!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2007 0:53:11 GMT 10
Don R ........Cobber will be more than happy to fill you in on the connection between the "streamline holiday" caravans and Slim Dusty ......he has some good pics somewhere on this forum, but I don't know where  |
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Post by aussietanker on Mar 25, 2007 0:59:43 GMT 10
Question for Mark or Don .. or anyone else that knows the answer ;D ...
looking at the pics of the "Holiday Home" .... the "Slim Dusty" ... and also other v vans including some of the restorations here (ie Doug & Vickie's "Don" restoration pics - Retro 1's "Castle" restoration pics etc ) ... it seems to my very unskilled eye that the sides of these vans where NOT always constructed out of one piece ....
so my question is ... how were the joints between the various "side panels" sealed so that they where waterproof? ... no tubes of silicone in those days i guess ...
did they cover the butt joint with some kind of waterproof builders tape? ...
Mark T - do the instruction sheets give any detail on that aspect?
regards A|T
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Post by belinda on Mar 25, 2007 6:55:34 GMT 10
The sides of our Atlantic are in two pieces, with a horizontal join at a point where there is a horizontal member in the frame. We presume this is because our van was built before large sheets of ply became easily available.
On the other Atlantics (Maurie's, Noddy, Cobbers "free to a good home" Mk I and III) the sides all appear to be made of a single piece of ply.
Ou van has never leaked at that point. The problems were around the rear windows (fixed by re-fitting with silicone sealer) and the top hatch (more silastic). It does get a slight crack in the paint at that point over time.
My 1948 book "how to build caravans" seems to indicate the sides are in two panels above and below the window line, witha bead that persumably covers the join (see picture in post above).
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Post by cobber on Mar 25, 2007 16:55:35 GMT 10
Yes.....the "Streamlined Holiday Home"  . Don, I did my best to encourage Mark to deck the SHH and Chev in "Slim Dusty" livery, big loudspeaker on the roof playing "Lights on the Hill" and all that, at about the same time Will & Lyn were doing their "Elvis" thing, but he decided to go down the ordinary old Kellogg's All-Bran...Lifeboy soap...blue willow 1950's path, could have been the talk of the town, but.. oh well  . vintagecaravans.proboards30.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1111362361&page=2I think I must have sent you more photos than these two Mark 'cause I do have more, and can't find them on the forum Cobber. |
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Post by aussietanker on Mar 25, 2007 23:50:24 GMT 10
Belinda said ... so Belinda ..... is the horizontal joint on your Atlantic just a plain "butt" joint ...or does it appear to be "half lapped" (or anything else fancy in the way of joints ) ... and is it covered in any way ... ie with a strip of wood or just butted and painted over .. i had another look at Doug and Vickie's "Don" rebuild pics and it looked to me as if the original pic (when they first spotted it in the garden where it is almost falling apart) shows the side without any joins at all in the panel - whereas the "after" shots show a vertical beading in the centre - presumably to cover where they have joined two panels .... but then again - i'm half blind on a good day - so am probably not seeing it right ...  The beautiful "holiday home" - which is what this thread is meant to be about - oops, sorry Mark - seems to have a vertical seam close to the rear on the side opposite to the door ... question to the techo's ... how should two panels be joined - does silicon stop glues from "gluing" and is beading above a butt joint waterproof ... regards A|T |
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Post by belinda on Mar 26, 2007 6:51:27 GMT 10
Mark, you may want to move these posts to their own thread in the technical section as it has got off track from specific discussion of your van.
Aussietanker, the joins seem to be just butt joints, but on the inside they are obscured by the frame and on the outside by paint. However, based on the rest of the van there is nothing sophisticated about an Atlantic so I'm assuming the most basic sort of workmanship. These vans are lightweight - yes, simple - yes, technically advanced - no.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Mar 26, 2007 22:00:24 GMT 10
Cobber,
Thanks for the info re Slim Dusty. Great photos. I was beginning to think that Mark was going to pull off another one of his coups with some nationally significant caravan icon!! And I'm still not sure that he isn't... Did you notice that there was a second van beside the one in the centre of the photo?
Don Ricardo
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Post by Don Ricardo on Mar 26, 2007 22:21:35 GMT 10
Hi everyone, A/T and Belinda's posts sent me out to our van with my measuring tape and our youngest son, who is a carpenter by trade. We checked out the sides and roof of the van. As a result we are are of the view that each of the sides is covered by two panels of marine ply. The largest on each side is 4.45 m x 1.1 m. Steve (my son) estimates that the side panels are 25 mm thick. The roof also consists of two panels of marine ply, but much thinner than the walls - it flexes under a bit of weight. The roof panels are approximately 5 m x 1m in size. The joins between the wall panels and the roof panels are covered by beading, which effectively water proofs the joins, no doubt assisted by the paint treatment described by Mark in post # 36 on the thread re sanding discs, etc: vintagecaravans.proboards30.com/index.cgi?board=technicalstuffboard&action=display&thread=1139836483&page=3Like Belinda, we've never had any problems with leakage, so the beading system obviously works. Just goes to show that the old craftsmen knew what they were doing even if they didn't have the advantage of modern materials such as silicon. For what it's worth...may contribute to an answer to the question about the size of the panels of ply available to caravan builders in the 40's and 50's. Don Ricardo |
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Post by tinnie on Mar 26, 2007 22:31:14 GMT 10
Hey Don, Are you sure Mark is not going to procure a piece of national heritage? That van in the "Flying the flags" foter (same as the second van in the top photer) posted by cobber looks simlar to the 'slightly' dilapedated one posted by Mark Personally, I'd love to get my hands on another article of national significance, Slim's blue ZD Fairlane . Tinnie  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2007 23:12:28 GMT 10
you guys are hot on the trail ......... here's a picture of the S H H during it's restoration in Hillbilly's shed:  what do you notice on the front of the van .......I highlighted them with paint, but,....... prior to my painting, they weren't highlighted .... I'll give you a clue Slim Dusty was a ---- Mark |
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Post by wildmanaus on Mar 27, 2007 6:51:46 GMT 10
Hello Mark
Would it be the Stars
let me know if i win first prize
Wildmanaus
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Post by humpty2 on Mar 27, 2007 19:45:27 GMT 10
I would like to find another of 'Slim's" vans.........the 15 foot Sunliner.
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Post by hwyman on Apr 17, 2007 20:35:33 GMT 10
Hi all i must of missed this post interestingly i recently sold a Austin Healey Sprite to a Ballarat film maker of course our discussion turned to vv's and he said he owns one of Slim Dusty's old vans and would sell it for a few hundred, he is not to sure of it's condition as he has not inspected it on his property for some time i believe he said it was done up for his last tour. Because he was busy i delivered the car to him he was happy and said i could have the van does anybody know what this van looked like,maybe it's the one he towed with the ZD Fairlane A/T spoke about it's been a while i have not contacted him or seen the van does anyone know the model or vintage Thanks Hwyman. |
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