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Post by Don Ricardo on Nov 3, 2013 19:34:07 GMT 10
On 3 November 2013, new member Nuts from New Zealand introduced us to his coach style caravan on the 'Old Tow Coupling' thread:not sure how to post this but ive got an old caravan with canvas roof hardboard walls the coupling is something really different i think oh and has model a ford wheels ant idea how old it is Later that same day, Cobber responded:G'day nuts, Not only have you given us an other interesting coupling you've also got an interesting van..... don't go away because we'd love to hear more about it and see more photos. If you click on THIS LINK and scroll down to reply # 44 you'll see the start of just one of the discussions there have been about this style of van. Also have a look at THIS THREAD and see if these vans have any similarity to yours. Anything you can add to our knowledge ( lack of ) about your style of van will be appreciated. Cobber.
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Post by nuts on Nov 4, 2013 6:15:08 GMT 10
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Post by nuts on Nov 4, 2013 16:23:36 GMT 10
was cleaning out caravan and found a calender dated 1949 so with that in mind must be older than that
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Post by hilldweller on Nov 4, 2013 16:33:28 GMT 10
Oooh how exciting another old NZ van on here Have you seen pics of Kevin Milne's van? 1936 from memory and thought to be a Tanner but then on further investigation found not to be, I think. Not the same as yours but definitely some similarities so I'm wondering if yours is perhaps a Tanner, or something else along those lines from around that era. Kevin Milne did quite a bit of research into the origins of his van and it's featured in a few media articles, both before and after restoration. If you google you should find references and pics. It's very helpful for the rest of us when investigative journalists with a national profile buy these old vans LOL. There's also a company called Auckland Caravan Company who did vans with the pointed front but the pics I've seen (mostly on Trade Me) of ACC vans don't look as old as yours. Not sure I'd be brave enough to try that tow hitch LOL. Cobber's the expert on those. Are you going to reclad with hardboard and canvas? What's the inside like? Can you post more pics?
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Post by JBJ on Nov 4, 2013 18:22:22 GMT 10
Hi,
Looks a good old van.
But your wheels arent model A Ford, in fact I dont think they are Ford at all.
But wire wheels were really only used between 1926/7 & 1935, for most vehicles. The first ones were normally 19" diameter, then in 1931/2 most went to 18", 1933/4 17", 1935 16"
Obviously without knowing what brand they are, there may be variations. But as a general guide, that should date the wheels to a year or two.
Hope that helps
JBJ
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Post by kaybee on Nov 4, 2013 20:01:37 GMT 10
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Post by shesgotthelook on Nov 4, 2013 21:31:25 GMT 10
It looks very similar to an English horse box (float)
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Post by nuts on Nov 5, 2013 4:20:43 GMT 10
thanx for your help the wheels have 5 stud pattern and the center is a scew on hub cap but the brace accros the center is only a single bar ... as far as being ford rims was told by someone else that they were ford .. i personally wouldnt have a clue at this stage so any input is greatly accepted
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Post by kaybee on Nov 5, 2013 6:11:26 GMT 10
thanx for your help the wheels have 5 stud pattern and the center is a scew on hub cap but the brace accros the center is only a single bar ... as far as being ford rims was told by someone else that they were ford .. i personally wouldnt have a clue at this stage so any input is greatly accepted Hi,they might be Vauxhall then , perhaps Sportsman Leigh can add some Vauxhall experience to this?,cheers.....
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Post by griffin on Nov 5, 2013 8:22:31 GMT 10
The general appearance and the description matches Vauxhall Light Six wheels commencing in 1934, but other British makes also used the centre bar for the wheel cap. A close up of the cap might assist.
George
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Post by nuts on Nov 5, 2013 16:55:09 GMT 10
It looks very similar to an English horse box (float) im short and can only just stand up in it so dont think its a horse float .... but yea that was my first impression too lol
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Post by nuts on Nov 7, 2013 11:12:46 GMT 10
Hi, Looks a good old van. But your wheels arent model A Ford, in fact I dont think they are Ford at all. But wire wheels were really only used between 1926/7 & 1935, for most vehicles. The first ones were normally 19" diameter, then in 1931/2 most went to 18", 1933/4 17", 1935 16" Obviously without knowing what brand they are, there may be variations. But as a general guide, that should date the wheels to a year or two. Hope that helps JBJ ive got these better pix of wheel and scew fast cap inner and outer its 17 inch rim
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Post by nuts on Nov 7, 2013 11:15:48 GMT 10
Oooh how exciting another old NZ van on here Have you seen pics of Kevin Milne's van? 1936 from memory and thought to be a Tanner but then on further investigation found not to be, I think. Not the same as yours but definitely some similarities so I'm wondering if yours is perhaps a Tanner, or something else along those lines from around that era. Kevin Milne did quite a bit of research into the origins of his van and it's featured in a few media articles, both before and after restoration. If you google you should find references and pics. It's very helpful for the rest of us when investigative journalists with a national profile buy these old vans LOL. There's also a company called Auckland Caravan Company who did vans with the pointed front but the pics I've seen (mostly on Trade Me) of ACC vans don't look as old as yours. Not sure I'd be brave enough to try that tow hitch LOL. Cobber's the expert on those. Are you going to reclad with hardboard and canvas? What's the inside like? Can you post more pics? no ihavnt seen kevin ,s van but will look ... as for tow hitch um my place ground is verry uneven and hooked up to my 4x4 and towed mint even backed it over rough ground sweet as but then im guessing with the laws wont b legal so will have to change it lol
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Post by griffin on Nov 7, 2013 21:44:28 GMT 10
Hi Nuts
I reckon your wheels are from the Bedord 8cwt van/utility, which was based on a Vauxhall Light Six chassis, they ran from about 1934 to 1938 using wire wheels. There were some slight differences over the time. The hub cap matches the Bedford, Vauxhall used a different cap.
George
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Post by nuts on Nov 8, 2013 18:39:42 GMT 10
Hi Nuts I reckon your wheels are from the Bedord 8cwt van/utility, which was based on a Vauxhall Light Six chassis, they ran from about 1934 to 1938 using wire wheels. There were some slight differences over the time. The hub cap matches the Bedford, Vauxhall used a different cap. George you could well be rite on closer inspection the other hub is different almost looks like an old tin plate well whats left of it
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Post by cobber on Dec 1, 2013 13:45:35 GMT 10
G'day nuts,
Did you have a look at the vans in those two links I gave you ? ... What do you reckon ?
I am inclined to think you have what the yanks called a "Covered Wagon" that was exported to the UK and called a "Nomad" then..... Imported to Oz and called an " Home Comforts" caravan.
What New Zealand called it we have yet to discover, aye ?
Cobber.
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Post by nuts on Jan 24, 2014 18:25:33 GMT 10
havnt had much of a chance to do anything on the ol caravan at the moment still trying to match up wheels andd age of it still cleaning it inside and waiting for good weather to do some reecladding will post more pics of inside asap .. had an old guy round to look at the wheels he said he had a model b4 with same wheels and hubcaps some time ago hids trailer had same wheels and caps on them as well .... so god knows what they are lol but im determind to find out
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Post by nuts on Feb 3, 2014 17:58:23 GMT 10
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Post by nuts on Feb 3, 2014 18:09:12 GMT 10
when i started this had no door and hand pump didnt work or any of the lights 12v dc or 24v ac the windows were stuck closed and vents jammed apoustery is pretty bad and outter lining is pretty buggered so big job ahead
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Post by nuts on Mar 17, 2014 16:57:20 GMT 10
hey all been busy trying to find out what the wheels are off of turns out the only match ive found so far for stud pattern size is a fiat 130 berlina .... the interesting other fact ive found out is the oil impregnated hard board is from switzerland discoverd that talking to my mothers partner cos it has a sacking type pattern on one side ... apparently it was imported because at the time the caravan was built it wasnt made in nz
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Post by nuts on Mar 17, 2014 17:17:30 GMT 10
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Post by nuts on Mar 19, 2014 17:14:51 GMT 10
got the pcd for the stud pattern ... its 108mm 5 stud so if anyone can help it would b gr8 :-D
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Post by Rattles on Mar 20, 2014 13:27:19 GMT 10
Early Holden 13/14" FC- HT are PCD-108mm x 5 Stud
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Post by nuts on Mar 20, 2014 18:27:51 GMT 10
Early Holden 13/14" FC- HT are PCD-108mm x 5 Stud sweet thanks ...
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Post by sportsman 1 on Mar 21, 2014 9:23:04 GMT 10
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