Table wall fitting has me stumped!!

[hilldweller]

If this is one of those intelligence test things I have failed miserably . Can someone pleeeeease tell me what these pieces are for and how to fit them ? They were … um… left over when I put the rail up for the table and I was hoping I didn’t need to worry about them , but the table slides and moves up off the rail when you don’t want it to. This is the rail, which I think is fitted OK (apart from the ugly screws).




And the brackets screwed to the underside of the table. Also OK I think, and the table sits nicely on the rail when not being pushed by small wriggly persons, or possibly a bumpy road (haven’t tried that yet).





And these are the mystery objects What do they do and which way up do they go? The bigger piece is a sort of spring-loaded lever. I’ve put it on an offcut of rail for the pic.







I looked elsewhere on the internet but all I found was a post from someone on another site saying these things should come with instructions! Any advice very gratefully received.

[Roehm3108]

INTERESTING

Obviously it is some sort of stopper to stop that sliding you're talking about. That stray piece you have left over - should the rail against the wall, slide into that short piece of pipe before it's attached to the wall and the grey bit with the two screwholes is attached to the underside of the table. It looks like those two grey clips you have attached to the end of the table, and which you are currently using as the only support against that wall section, should actually clip over the short stainless bits sticking out of that clip unit. I reckon that the receiver bit of grey plastic (with hollow rectangular section) should attach to the wall itself, once you have determined exactly where the table should sit between the seats. the clip would then latch into the receiver bit and stop sideway sliding.

I know hwat I'm talking about, but not sure if the message is clear enough for you HD

Ray

[hilldweller]

Sorry Ray I should have been clearer. That short bit of pipe is just the piece I cut off the rail because I didn't see any need for the table to slide right over to each side. Without the rail through it the two bits of the stopper keep springing apart, which was difficult to photograph. So that surplus bit of rail is not part of the final solution and when someone figures out how the plastic pieces need to go I'll have to undo one end of the rail from the wall and slide the stopper piece onto it. I think what you're picturing is right though - the stopper piece needs to attach to the wall (but which way up???) and the other bit to the table (the edge? the top? the bottom?). I've tried every which way and can't for the life of me figure out how the two fit together.

[seeshell]

Hi Ray and HD

I think that the brackets with the springs go on the bar (somewhere toward the edge of the table on each side - maybe 2 inches in from the edge and get screwed to the wall) and the sockets (small grey pieces without the latches) are attached to the underside of the table to line up with them.

If you put them near the edge of each side of the table you can lean over the top of the table and put your arms over both sides to "free" the latches when you want to take the table down off the bar.

Other old table arrangements have door latches - barrel bolts - underneath or from the side to stop the table popping up from bouncing or little wriggly people. Well - that's what the dead Olympic had anyway.

Cheers!
Seeshell

[Roehm3108]

OK HD, I reckon you're just trying to confuse us over the ditch here!! ;D But if that little bit is just an offcut, then I reckon the same thing still applies, Slip the catch part onto the fitted rail, screw it onto the wall at a good anchorage and the receiver would have to be screwed onto the underside of the table.

I guess following what seeshell says, you could simply put it to one side, rather than the centre, but that's up to you. What doesn't make sense though, is that you can't readily take the table top off if you wanted to convert it to a bed.

This is fun

Ray

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Hi HD,go to a Jayco sales yard and have a look at their campers,they all have this fitting holding up their tables.
Cheers
hughdeani

[Roehm3108]

Hughdeani, that would probably explain the lack of instructions, and on top of which you've dobbed HD in for a non-vintage part on his caravan ;D ;D ;D

Good idea though, if he has a dealer handy

Ray

[seeshell]

Hi HD

Don't know if it's true or not, but I understand the extra length of pipe was to let "tubbier" people in and out of the closed in seat easier. By being able to slide over to the other side, it makes a bit of room so everyone can slip along the cushions in then pull the table back to the middle and lock it with the clips.

Cheers
Seeshell

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Oops!!
hughdeani

[hilldweller]

You guys are great ;D So underneath, you reckon? I think the penny may have dropped with Seeshell's comment about using the little toilet door latches to prevent it moving up: the mystery objects are there only to keep it from being pushed from side to side by expanding waistlines, not up and down. Will have a play later and post some pics if I get it sorted in case anyone else is similarly confused.

Oh and the non-vintage fitting is there to keep the non-vintage vinyl (coming soon...), the non-vintage door handle (yuk), and the various non vintage screws and other parts company

[hilldweller]

Oct 10, 2012 19:24:28 GMT 10 Roehm3108 said:

Hughdeani, that would probably explain the lack of instructions, and on top of which you've dobbed HD in for a non-vintage part on his caravan ;D ;D ;D

That would be her caravan thanks Ray

[Roehm3108]

Sorry HD To be honest, for some reason I always ASSUMED you were a bloke Never ever bothered to check the gender sign

Ray

[hilldweller]

I have had a rethink. Now that I understand how the mystery objects work, I think they're silly! They're only going to stop sideways movement, not up and down, whereas the toilet door catches Seeshell described will do both. So I've bought a pair of those to go underneath, a couple of inches in from the edges. And when the rain stops and so that it's possible to move between garage and van without getting cold and wet I will fit them

[Roehm3108]

Hmmmm Now how can someone get up and down movement from a table that's got a leg under one end and sits on a fixed track on the other

Naaaahhhh, I won't ask ;D ;D ;D

[hilldweller]

Well OK not down, but up. Pressure from underneath just lifts the table off the rail. Good if you're wanting to remove it; not good if the pressure is from small wriggly persons and there's food and drink on the table top.