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Post by gilbert on Jul 13, 2012 23:39:01 GMT 10
Hi i am after some vintage lino any condition and amount the stuff that used to come in floral and other patterns around the 1950s or 60s that was also found in every old house cupboards or floors Thank you
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Post by Jennison on Jul 14, 2012 14:49:26 GMT 10
We found a lino shop in Canowindra near Cowra that sells nothing else! Every old pattern you can think of. All original stuff and quite cheap jenno
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Post by seeshell on Jul 14, 2012 17:14:12 GMT 10
HI Jenno
Do you have contact details for the lino shop?
Cheers! Seeshell
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Post by Roehm3108 on Jul 14, 2012 17:21:02 GMT 10
They're probably out of stock now, seeshell, I hear they got raided during the vintage caravan nationals ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by JBJ on Jul 14, 2012 18:52:22 GMT 10
Hi All, Lets get a bit of reality back into buying things Most older businesses in the country dont have computers & or stock lists. VERY few even know about EBAY & the assorted crap that brings. If you want to find something, get off your bum in front of the computer, & go look. Almost every town will have someone who sells & lays floor coverings. We have found flooring in places you wouldnt belive. BUT no one will find it for you. I have no idea of how we as a society have become so much dependent of crap like Ebay. Could we have some "Trolls" ( Ebay people) as residents here?? I think so, And they are probably the members that upset a lot of others with their mindless complaining about the fact that things havent been dropped on their lap to buy, like they believe is their God Given right. Get out & look in the real world, & get a life. Australians used to go for weekend drives, & look in old shops, go to markets, garage sales, etc. A lot believe it should all come to them. Well make sure you have plenty of food & drinks while you wait for the world to give you what you think is your right to recieve. Me, I'll be out there looking & finding while you miss out I really dont care how many i upset with this post, I am so sick of hearing all the whinging & lame excuses some keep putting up. If you live in "wherever", do you really honestly expect the things you are looking for, that havent been for sale on the general market for many years, to be sitting in your next door neighbours shed, & they actual just happen to list what yopu are looking for on Ebay? JBJ the pissed off
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Post by Jennison on Jul 14, 2012 19:18:12 GMT 10
Plenty of lino there, no idea of the name or number....you could try the Canowindra local business committee...we met their chairman on our first visit, alternatively look up any business in the town and they could tell you the name most likely...it's only a small place! jenno
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Post by smiles on Jul 14, 2012 19:56:55 GMT 10
Dennis couldn't agree more with all of what you said!
I am really tired of constant comments about Ebay listings, I don't mind people listing some things but it's the endless comments ABOUT the listings that makes me cranky.
I've had a little project going to get lino on the floor of the Castle for about 2 years now & it's involved a whole lot of googling, phoning, checking out local stores, & talking to people. I'm almost there!
Re Canowindra floor covering shop, I was with the first mob who wandered in there & proprietor defintely said he didn't have old rolls of lino. Folks, it was all vinyl...old vinyl. I know what old & new lino looks like! Unless you've got mega bucks to pay for cracked up old lino on Ebay then check out new lino made by forbes marmoleum or Tarkett.
I'm doing a similar project to find parchment for the lightshades for the Don, I've checked out craft shops, light shops, op shops etc Luckily I've got the right green thread for the stitching round the edge of the lightshades cos I have a great stash of old threads from Robs grandmother who was a seamstress ( from the days when people didn't throw out stuff).
Bet we all have similar tales of searching for something that doesn't just fall into our laps!
Anyway said my piece too!
smiles
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Post by seeshell on Jul 14, 2012 20:24:11 GMT 10
Hi All
I'm a little curious about how this turned into a fight about the legitimacy of where you find the bit you need. The original poster only asked a question about where they might find some lino.
I shared the details of McMats in Victoria - who sell left overs of Marmoleum and Lino from commercial jobs for about $15 sq m (though usually plain and not floral) some time back - I think it's in the suppliers list. If you find something, it helps others out if we share that information.
I agree that you do have to seek if you want to find, but equally there's no need to make everyone reinvent the wheel.
I agree that commenting on the listings on Ebay is not necessary (because it can invite some libel issues), but I think it's as legitimate a way for finding things as any other.
I enjoy a good poke around a junk shop, a antiques mall, country stores, and eBay or Esty equally. I think it comes down to preference.
My two cents, Seeshell
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Post by Roehm3108 on Jul 14, 2012 22:10:49 GMT 10
I think that sharing information about sourcing vintage caravan stuff is legitimate, that's why we have the Technical Information section on the site. As seeshell says, why reinvent the wheel?
But I have noticed that some members put up questions about sourcing things obviously without either bothering to search that section or making their own enquiries such as seeshell is suggesting. If something is not to be found on this site or Ebay etal, then you just have to do the legwork!! I think that this is what Dennis is alluding to. Don't just send out an all points bulletin as your first port of call, expecting people to have what you want. Make it your last.
When I think of what information was available on this site about sourcing things, when I first joined (Dec 2004) you could write the information on a pinhead - in capital letters too!! But it was part of the fun about this hobby - making the discovery, and often having a story about getting the item.
Otherwise, if you don't want to do the hard yards, I suggest you pay the dollars and buy a restored vintage caravan.
Ray
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Post by smiles on Jul 15, 2012 0:12:05 GMT 10
It's easy to misinterpret some discussions isn't it? I really appreciate your generosity in the way you share info & contacts seashell. Those vintage US FM radios you talked about were fascinating. If I knew where loads of cheap vintage lino was available, I'd let people know. But I don't know.
In country areas such as where I live, there are slim pickings, believe me! My rule of thumb is to shop local to try & keep all the little businesses going that keep small rural locations alive. If somethings unavailable locally, then it's up to the fingers to do the walking whether it's the ph book, google, eBay or whatever. I get pretty excited when I go to a city such as Melbourne! But I do wish that people should stop making continous commentary on how an item on Ebay is going as it makes it very hard for people wanting to bid & also clogs up the forum with endless chatter. Nuff said ...back to the Tour
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 15, 2012 0:25:51 GMT 10
Hi Gilbert, As I understand it, the 'For Sale/Wanted' section of the forum is where you can mention something you are looking for in the hope that another forum member may possibly have what you are searching for, so don't feel too badly about your post asking about lino. The question about possible suppliers of lino comes up from time to time. If no-one on the forum is able to help you with what you are looking for, the 'Technical Stuff' section is a good place to start a search for info about bits and pieces that we need for our vans, as Roehm has suggested. The first thread in that section - which you will find here - is a type of directory of suppliers, etc, for various items that Cobber has put together, and very useful it is. I note that there is no entry relating to lino or floor coverings in the directory, but there are quite a few threads in the Technical Stuff section relating to it - click here and here and here and (not in the Technical Stuff section) here. Hopefully they may give you a starting point. Maybe we can prevail on Cobber to include a section on lino in the Technical Stuff directory? How about it Cobber? Good luck with your search Gilbert. Don Ricardo
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Post by seeshell on Jul 15, 2012 1:36:17 GMT 10
Hi Smiles I quite agree: I think flagging an item of interest on eBay is fine, but commenting on the worth of it, condition (which is so subjective), or the honesty of the seller only invites legal issues. I have been told that it was an issue in the past - so best we keep our noses clean, hey? AND of course, it clogs up the forum. Got it in one, Smiles. I also like to shop locally - though as you say it's rather hard, and you do have to hunt about. But I have found a bunch of stuff for the van within an hour of my home: bote-cote, wheels and rims, good repairers, canvas makers, and of course lino. I can appreciate how lucky I am to be near a major city - it certainly helps the options. I'm always happy - if you're not in a burning rush! - to make a foray to McMats on behalf of an out of stater/country cousin to have a look around at what is currently in stock, in what quantity, and for what price. So lino hunters, don't despair! Cheers Seeshell
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Post by cobber on Jul 15, 2012 8:15:17 GMT 10
I note that there is no entry relating to lino or floor coverings in the directory, but there are quite a few threads in the Technical Stuff section relating to it - click here and here and here and (not in the Technical Stuff section) here. Hopefully they may give you a starting point. Maybe we can prevail on Cobber to include a section on lino in the Technical Stuff directory? How about it Cobber? Don Ricardo G'day Don R, I will do a bit of research for valid reliable sources of lino (both old and new) and include them in Vintage restoration Parts Suppliers/information List.............................anything for a quite life Problem is........... any supplier who has bits of fair dinkum old lino doesn't have it for very long Cobber
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Post by seeshell on Jul 15, 2012 9:27:34 GMT 10
Hi Cobber That is likely true - so in some cases I think that the links are likely to be to suppliers or sources of old-style materials that are still produced, like the Armstrong flooring or Marmoleum. Cheers Seeshell
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Post by cobber on Jul 15, 2012 11:00:42 GMT 10
G'day seeshell, Yes I will make mention of the Marmoleum material but really, it is the second best alternative when one is really after vintage Lino. I think people should contact some of the second hand carpet suppliers (and there are plenty of them) to let them know they are after vintage Lino, if they are aware there is a market for such junk they might start rescuing good bits when they come across it. I've had an eBay “saved search” for “vintage Lino” and “Linoleum” running for a couple of years and all I ever hear about is tables..cupboards...draws etc. covered with bits of Lino, haven't seen a decent run of old Lino since the lot JBJ bought (off eBay) to put in Lucille Cobber.
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Post by Roehm3108 on Jul 15, 2012 12:06:16 GMT 10
Another source to check out are building demolishers - maybe before the wrecking ball hits the building ;D ;D
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Post by JBJ on Jul 15, 2012 17:39:08 GMT 10
Hi Cobber.
Nearly forgot about Lucille.
That was a 5.5 metre long hall runner in 1950"s (we think) lino, that I won on Ebay. Drove 3 hours to get it towing a trailer, then found it fitted in the boot of our Valiant we had at the time.
I also found some very old style lino in a shop in the main street of Ballina, that we used in our Sunliner. Was an offcut out in the back shed.
The lino we just fitted to Deejay came from the ones the others left behind at Canowindra.
No one knows whats out there.
If I'm looking for something, I take the time to ask around in a town when I pass thru.
If you know you are going somewhere & have a bit of time up your sleeve to look , why not make a few phone calls in advance. Dont play the retro crap to people, most older aussies hate the word, & think only yuppies use it. Ask for old leftover bits from the older days, & maybe some one will remember that Bill replaced his lino 50 years ago, & last time we looked it was still in his shed
Its a lot of fun meeting the genuine people.Total waste of time in my experience even talking to antique shop owners ( dealers)
But you stand a good chance if you try it the right way
JBJ
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Post by Jellybean on Jul 15, 2012 22:03:50 GMT 10
Poor Gilbert just asked if someone had some lino and didn't mention Ebay. You guys did ! This used to be a friendly helpful forum !!!
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Post by JBJ on Jul 16, 2012 4:45:53 GMT 10
Hi Jondi
Thanks to you And Penny for the comment about what I said about things.
Sometimes things are expressed not quite as they were meant to be, & I regret that I am guillty of that at times, probably more often than should be.
As a moderator I have to react to some members dislike of excessive comments on what they see as trivial items. I personally see trivial items as being one of the major things that is essential in keeping a Forum operating, but others dont.
One real difficulty is the nature of any Forum. New members have to ask questions to be able to find out things. I find over the years I have a fair idea of where most things are, but not all.
One of the great difficulties (frustrations??) that some older members have with new members is the same questions keep getting asked. I guess that will always happen, as newer members start the process with their vans that a lot of us have already followed.
And that will always re occur, nothing anyone can ( or should want to) do anything about it
Another major frustration is the lack of a need for a new members location on their member profile they put together when they join. I know it annoys many when someone wants to buy or sell something, mentions it briefly in a thread, & doesnt say where they are.
The number of times that various members have posted & asked the newer member the question of location would be far greater than most would think.
If any newer member doesnt know how to do this, why not send a moderator a friendly PM or email & ask the question??
And another frustrating thing is that when this posting disappears from the "most recent threads", all the following newer members will have to go thru the cycle of trying to find out how it all works, then some ( grumpy on the surface) older member will post something trying to suggest something, & so the wheel turns.
It will always be a helpful, friendly(hopefully) & informative Forum. But human nature will affect how people allow themselves to react to comments that often aren't intended as the (most obvious) meaning seems. Very few of us ever are lucky enough to be be able to say what we really mean to say in words, let alove in the written print.
We all have different levels of ability in literacy, spelling, understanding, tolerance & even education which make for difficulties most of the time in life.
Again sorry if I offended, it wasnt meant as anything other than a comment about things.
JBJ
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Post by cobber on Jul 16, 2012 12:20:37 GMT 10
OK............... I've added a few tips on finding Linoleum in the Vintage Restoration Parts Suppliers / information thread. I've also been in touch with the bloke in Canowindra who tells me at the moment he has no old stuff left, he also said that if he comes across any he will keep it, and rather than add him to the list where he might get a phone call every second day he said he will give me a phone call if he finds any...... don't hold your breath but..... he said it happens less and less these days. If anybody has knowledge of where suppliers of ANY VINTAGE PARTS suitable for use in caravan restoration are.... and would like them added to the list.... send me a PM please. Cobber.
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Post by gilbert on Jul 16, 2012 21:53:51 GMT 10
well it's great that everyone has there say about linoleum lol i never thought lino would course so much stress. I have tried demolishing places they get house lots but just rip it up and throw it in the bin i have tried an antique shop i visit frequently she has it but wants to keep it, so will keep trying.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 16, 2012 22:30:40 GMT 10
Hi Gilbert, I'm glad you're still able to "LOL" after all that! At least your post resulted in the suppliers list in the Technical Stuff section augmented with some additional info related to lino. Good luck with your search. Don Ricardo
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Post by gilbert on Jul 18, 2012 22:47:38 GMT 10
Thank you Don, the thing is everyone knows what stuff is worth now and stuff that used to get thrown out they now keep it and sell it .
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