One thing led to another and I thought this would be an exciting thread for people to add their contributions to.... it's earlees fault, just as the thread on “Old Tow Couplings” was.
The trade mark on the ply in earlees lantern roof van is only discernibly by the name “Bull Dog Brand”
I had previously discovered a “Bull Dog Brand” trade mark on a piece of ply in Ol' 36 but was able to also see the name “Hancock” on it, so I had been able to do a bit of research.
Its interesting that the marks are different... probably means that earlees 'van is younger than mine . The history of this brand of plywood can be seen at. www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A090176b.htm They are now know as “Boral Hancock”
I was prompted to try harder to identify a trade mark I had found on Ol' 36 during restoration
Turns out the clue that “Google” needed was “plywood manufacturer +star in circle” and up came the name of the company in a Pharmaceutical Museum . (see half way down the page MHM02054) The company was D.G. Brims and Sons who now trade under the name of “Brims wood Panels” but still use the star in a circle as their trade mark.
That means that trade mark was around in 1958 right ?
I remember they were sold to P.G.H IN 1967..... then I think P.G.H was taken over by F and T industries in 1972 and so far as I can remember F and T were then taken over by ACMIL in 1977 who were then delisted in 1985.
So I don't know if that trade mark was used after about 1967 or not......... maybe Ray can research that for us so I can get on with other things
I got a bit of a head-acre trying to work out where that bit of plywood was made If that is a "T" in front of AURI it would appear that "TAURI" is a ply from Malta or the Philippines... as you discovered ?..... also the name of a tree in New Zealand.
If that bit in front of AURI could be made to look like a "K" we then have "KAURI" Pine ..... an Aussie species.
And if it is just a plain old "AURI" they are a mob in the USofA who were interested in making an adhesive for use in the manufacture of plywood.
Where was this piece of ply on your van, inside or outside lining?
Hopefully we have an expert out there who can tell us all about this brand mark
One thing leads to another and I noticed a photo showing plywood branded “Klinkii” in the thread about jodel1050's Franklin. Apparently it is a fairly durable timber from Papua New guinea.... read a bit about it HERE, still being used to this day
This piece was Interior “C” bond and used in the bottom of a draw in the Franklin..... mid 1960's
Reswood was a waterproof plywood made by Ralph Symonds that was available in lengths up to 25ft. from about 1952. It was painted with a resin that soaked into the ply giving it a reddish tinge and great resistance to water damage. Here we have a sample of “Giand Reswood” as used on the van being restored by Carapark..... see photos HERE On the edge of the ply the stencil says “GIANT Reswood ” then “25 ft one piece waterproof plywood”. This is probably not their “Trade Mark” but more likely a description of the product .
Sorry, I did see the plywood brand mark on your other thread but didn't respond because........... I didn't have the answer
What this thread is about at this time is trying to gather information about brand marks with the object of helping to age vans in the future, and this brand of yours will help to do that over time...... thanks for posting it.
Looking at your van and comparing it to vans in the Gypsy thread in DHL I'm inclined to think your van is a mid 50s job.... go to the DHL and tell us what you think
Thought it might not be date-able. I have visited G&L Caravans at Guildford they seem to think that its an early 50's (around or before 54) this is due to the fact (they say) it does not have Alply and that their Gypsy is Alum clad. Their Gypsy 10 is a late 1954 model.
I'd like Don R ( who is the expert at analysing the intricacies of these things, me...... I just get confused) to buy into this discussion.
I get the impression that around 1956 possibly 1954 ? Gypsy were using products made by Ralph Symonds.... Alply, plasply and Marine ply, prior to that and again around 1959 they were using "water proof plywood" ( possibly made by Hancock & Gore ? ) this confusion, in my mind comes from reading through the advertisements in the the Gypsy thread in DHL and reply #17 in the Caravan construction materials thread in DHL
Having read all that stuff I would agree with Carl that your van was made in the first half of the 1950s.
That is interesting Geoge, so far we thought Ralph Symonds started using resin impregnated plywood around 1948.. at least that was the first mention of "plasply" which was a plastic coating they applied to Reswood.
The first actual mention of Reswood was in 1952 when they applied a fire retardant paint to it and called it "Rescote".... All that "knowledge" comes from this thread Poor ol '36 didn't have a resin ply ..... just ordinary ply I'd say
All we have to do now is find out when Brims & Sons started using "Resin Ply".
Are you going to start a thread on your "new old van"
Good on you Andrew, this thread needs a shot in the arm occasionally. At least we know the year your mark was made ... 1949 and a fair idea when Gypsy 10s was used....mid 1950s. Might be useful info for somebody one day.