i have a 1969 Franklin van which i have lived in on and off since it was purchased in Melbourne in 1969. i am in the process of getting it painted. i have the original Franklin sticker from the rear roof to copy but the front phoenix sticker went years ago. i am looking for a reasonable photo of the front sticker. as you can see the one i have is difficult to read
Post by Don Ricardo on Sept 23, 2016 21:57:51 GMT 10
Welcome to the forum. I notice that no-one has replied to your post. Apologies for that, but it may just be that no-one has what you are looking for.
I've been trying to work out why there would be both a Franklin sticker and a Phoenix sticker on your van, if it is a Franklin. Do you you know why that is? Was Phoenix acting as an agent Franklin in the late 1960's, or was your Franklin sold second hand by Phoenix at some stage? Does the Phoenix sticker give any indication?
If you'd like to post some photos of your van I'm sure people would be interested to see it. There are instructions on how to post photos in the 'Forum Guidelines & Helpful Hints' section of the forum. The best way to do it is via Photobucket which is an online photo storage website.
I will be really interested to hear what you can tell us about the Phoenix/Franklin connection.
Lucky Girl!! Would have thought you'd get all dressed up in your uniform in case he needed first aid!!!! So which was the first address, Nunawading or Fairfield? To think I once lived just a klm or two up the road from the Nunawading address, in Mitcham!!! But then I have lived in 5 states!!
DonRicardo, perhaps the answer to your question lies in the stickers SGTL was given - Note The Phoenix Caravan Enterprises Pty Ltd? Didn't Doug Thorley up the road in Croydon do something similar, placing his stickers beside or under the manufacturer's name??
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Post by Don Ricardo on Dec 5, 2016 11:20:51 GMT 10
Phoenix was located at Fairfield first, then moved to (or added) Nunwading. According to the most recent issue of Time to Roam, which contains an interesting article on Phoenix, Phoenix was located at Nunawading by 1967, and I guess may have moved there a little prior to that. By that stage Phoenix had stopped making their own vans and were selling Franklins with a few Phoenix modifications, plus - judging by the photos in Time to Roam - quite a few second hand vans of a wide variety of makes.
I am thinking that that's where the stickers SGTL has shown us came from. The may have been applied to the Phoenix modified Franklins, and to the second hand vans - a bit like Doug Thorley who you referred to.
Post by shesgotthelook on Dec 13, 2016 20:59:06 GMT 10
Jeff has sent me a lot of fantastic photos, they are not all Phoenix related but I will still put them all here for now. With any luck, Jeff will be able to tell us a bit more about them himself when he gets time. Enjoy; 1. Fairfield
Post by shesgotthelook on Aug 6, 2020 9:13:45 GMT 10
Hughdeany way ahead of me as usual! I have just been madly researching history pages & my next stop is 'Lost Mildura Sunraysia'. I'm not 100% convinced that these are Phoenix caravans. The 3rd one in particular has quite a different front & stone guard to anything I'm familiar with. I wonder if Jeff Chrisfield is able to help us out at all?
Hi all, Hard to tell what sort of vans they are IMO,except the tandm in the procession has the same shape but different windows! The rounded one on the end looks a bit like a Carapark,whilst the one with the two opening front windows looks like a factory built but I cant remember the name! When I mentioned Halls Jayco,I meant he sold used vans from his front yard long before Jayco came along.If it helps,he was on Deakin Avenue. Cheers hughdeany
Post by Don Ricardo on Aug 22, 2020 21:36:51 GMT 10
1956 Phoenix 11ft listed on Gumtree in October 2017
The external silver colour makes it look as if the van is clad in aluminium, but after examining the photos for a while, I think the external cladding has been painted with aluminium enamel.
The shape and style of the van seem to be consistent with the Phoenix caravans from around 1956 shown in adverts on this thread. In that case this is likely to be a Phoenix 113 model. However, the braced drawbar seems to be a bit unusual for a Phoenix.
Post by Don Ricardo on Aug 24, 2020 15:17:08 GMT 10
Following are photos of Phoenix caravans seen at the Baringhup vintage caravan weekend in February 2016 and/or Bridegewater in February 2017. We have the serial numbers for each van displayed, and this with the serial numbers recorded above may eventually assist us to be able to work out the order they were built and/or a build date.
1. Phoenix belonging to friends of the forum, Sandra and Dennis - serial number K6269
This van has been dated as 1957 by Jeff Chrisfield.
The van has been painted to match its tow vehicle, but the livery is not dissimilar to that seen in some of the Phoenix adverts shown higher up this thread.
2. Phoenix belonging to Shesgotthelook - serial number E6224
There are other photos of this van higher up the thread.
3. A Franklin Premier badged as a Phoenix - serial number V6540
Does anybody know how to decode the Phoenix serial numbers? Does the letter of the alphabet represent a year or something else? The first two digits '62', '62' and '65' respectively for these three caravans could represent the year, except that that conflicts with Jeff Chrisfield's advice regarding Sandra and Dennis's van. But if that's not the case, why do all the numbers start with '6'? A mystery to be solved.