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Post by kerry1 on Jul 10, 2021 17:50:06 GMT 10
hello everyone thanks for adding me to ask i hope not stupid questions i just bought a Coronet mini caravan but am not finding what year it was made it is 10' 6" long 6' wide and was totally stripped out inside i have the cushions but nothing but the interior wheel hubs i have split windows front and back and one window cover on front window probably for the protection of that window the outer walls a aluminium and have become detached at the bottom of the wall i have a few fixes to be done to it to get it stable enough to fix the interior photos will be coming soon i have a serial number from the tow bar 2-7531 if that helps so i am wondering if anyone has any idea what year it was made and if anyone has a picture of what the interior looks like at all so i can renovate it.
thanks Kerry
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Post by kenny on Jul 11, 2021 21:34:38 GMT 10
hello everyone thanks for adding me to ask i hope not stupid questions i just bought a Coronet mini caravan but am not finding what year it was made it is 10' 6" long 6' wide and was totally stripped out inside i have the cushions but nothing but the interior wheel hubs i have split windows front and back and one window cover on front window probably for the protection of that window the outer walls a aluminium and have become detached at the bottom of the wall i have a few fixes to be done to it to get it stable enough to fix the interior photos will be coming soon i have a serial number from the tow bar 2-7531 if that helps so i am wondering if anyone has any idea what year it was made and if anyone has a picture of what the interior looks like at all so i can renovate it. thanks Kerry Is it possible to show a photo? Regards kenny
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 11, 2021 22:17:50 GMT 10
Hi Kerry1, Thanks for telling us about your little Coronet. Unfortunately at this stage we're not sure how to interpret the Coronet serial numbers. A couple of Coronet owners have told us their numbers which are the same format as yours. The first numbers before the '-' that have been mentioned are either '2' or '3', and strangely enough the four numbers after the '-' all start with '7'. Those four numbers might indicate a production number, but we're just not sure. As Kenny suggested, if you can post some photos we can probably tell you more. There is information on how to post photos if you click here. We'll be glad to help you if we can. Don Ricardo
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Post by kerry1 on Jul 12, 2021 19:00:27 GMT 10
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Post by kerry1 on Jul 12, 2021 19:03:58 GMT 10
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 12, 2021 23:35:55 GMT 10
Hi Kerry1, Great to see some photos of your little Coronet. There's a very similar van shown on the Coronet thread in the 'Down History Lane' section here that was identified as a Coronet Prince built somewhere between 1971 and 1974. The front profile of your van is a little different to the one in the photo on the Coronet thread because the front of your van (looked at from side on) appears to be straight, whereas the one on the Coronet thread has a top half that slopes out a little before then curving in. Hughdeany may have some more info on the difference between to two. Don Ricardo
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Post by hughdeany on Jul 13, 2021 9:15:34 GMT 10
Hi all, This Coronet looks to be the same shape as the one in the pic,but seems to have a bigger rear side window that changes the look totally.( I think!)and that big vent could be hiding a multitude of sins! Cheers hughdeany
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 13, 2021 11:49:10 GMT 10
Hi Hughdeany, I agree that the two vans are essentially the same shape, however I did notice the difference in the front profile which you can see when the photos are put together: The front wall on the B&W photo curves inwards just below the front window, before then heading downward. In this respect it has the same profile and look as the larger Coronet Princes. In contrast, the front wall on Kerry1's van has a slight bend inward just below the front window, to create an ever so slight V-shape at that point. But there is no pronounced curving in under the window as is the B&W photo. I wondered if Kerry1's van may have had the front wall modified at some point (because you have taught me to look for that ), but looking at the front of Kerry1's van it looks original and unmodified to me. All the same there is some extra venting to the right of the fridge vents on Kerry1's van, plus an extra little lockable hatch below it, which may indicate that it may have had some additional fittings installed at some point. What do you think?
I'm not sure about the rear side windows. They seem to line up with the cladding and wheel arch, etc, at the same points on each van?
Don Ricardo
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Post by hughdeany on Jul 13, 2021 11:52:29 GMT 10
Hi Don, Didn’t notice that till you made me aware! Looks like the front has been repaired and made the easiest shape closest to original! Cheers hughdeany
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Post by kerry1 on Jul 21, 2021 9:54:16 GMT 10
Hi Kerry1, Great to see some photos of your little Coronet. There's a very similar van shown on the Coronet thread in the 'Down History Lane' section here that was identified as a Coronet Prince built somewhere between 1971 and 1974. The front profile of your van is a little different to the one in the photo on the Coronet thread because the front of your van (looked at from side on) appears to be straight, whereas the one on the Coronet thread has a top half that slopes out a little before then curving in. Hughdeany may have some more info on the difference between to two. Don Ricardo hi everyone my coronet is in the shape of a crown and is not a prince or princess but it is 40 to fifty years old i have been looking at those years but there is no photos or advertising things anywhere so it is probably a type of demo model or something it is the mystery van for now with a fair bit of black mould that i am killing off and the will sort out new roof and walls and then flooring as well when this covid thing has finished again the only wood that is mouldy is the meranti red hardwood so i am changing to Australian oak hardwood for now possibly later on will get son to weld up some frame work to replace some of the wood. thanks for your attention and help will post some more soon. keep safe and stay warm kerry1
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 22, 2021 15:43:00 GMT 10
Hi Kerry1, You indicated that your van is 40 to 50 years old which would date it somewhere between 1970 and 1980. The brochures I referred you to earlier show the vans from around the late 60's and early 70's, and you'll notice that the flashes on the side and diamond on the door are similar to yours, indicating that they are all from roughly the same period. The late 70's and early 80's Coronets had quite a different look to them, as well as different side stripes, etc, so I'm pretty sure your van isn't as late as that. However, I've come across some photos of a larger Coronet which may be closer in age to yours: You'll notice that the front windows on this van are in a section which sticks out a bit from the front wall, whereas on your van the front windows are placed flat in the front wall. However, the general style is very similar to yours. But note that the flashes on the sides of your van are more similar to the 1971 models than this one (which may have been repainted of course). The advert for this van just said it was a '70's 18F' Coronet. I've never heard of an 18F model and wonder if it refers to it being 18 feet in length, although it looks longer than that. Hughdeany may be able to help us further. Hughdeany was in the caravan industry for many decades and sold (and owned some) Coronet caravans for some of that time, so you can pretty much stake your life on what he says. I certainly don't think that your van is a demo model or similar because Coronet was building vans for a number of decades and their designs tended to evolve over time rather than change markedly. We'll look forward to seeing some more photos of your van as you restore it. It is a very neat little caravan. Don Ricardo
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Post by hughdeany on Jul 22, 2021 17:46:34 GMT 10
Hi Don and Kerry, I remember when Coronet squared off the ends of their vans,they started with the east West Island bed models so you could walk around the back wall beside the bed,and then it seemed to catch on to all models ( Personally I much preferred the rounded bottom ends to the square version) The 18 f I think just means 18 feet,and the stripe is not original. As you say Don,it’s not a Demo,just a variation on a theme. Hope this helps Cheers hughdeany
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 24, 2021 22:46:53 GMT 10
Hi Kerry1, I've done a bit more digging around for you and have found a couple of photos of Coronet caravans that are larger than yours, but are still clearly from the same model range:
These vans also still have the original Coronet flashes on the side, unlike the one I posted a day or so ago that had been repainted.
Having looked at your van, as well as those in the three photos I have posted for you, my judgement is that this model range came after the vans Coronet produced in the late 60's and early 70's which we have previously discussed and are "curvier", especially where the front and rear meet the floor. In terms of styling, the vans the shape of yours seem to fit in between the curvier, earlier vans and the vans Coronet was producing at the end of the 70's/early 80's which were very angular and box like. I reckon there's a fair bet that your van is mid-70's, plus or minus a little bit. Whether that's the case or not, these photos certainly dispel the idea that your van was a one-off or demo model of some sort, because we have now documented a number of vans of different sizes of the same design. Yours is clearly the "baby" of the range.
As to the model name...Coronet used the model names Crown, Prince and Princess - all fitting in with the company name Coronet - for quite a number of years over a series of styling iterations. So, based on that I reckon there's a good chance that the same model names would have still been used for the model range like yours. So for example your van would be (say) a 'Coronet Prince 10 ft' or something like that. Of course, I don't have any evidence that the model names carried over to your particular model at this point, it's just an educated guess based on what I know about Coronet. I suspect Hughdeany may have a brochure or two for your model range put away in his files, but I know that he can't access his files at the moment and won't be able to for a while. Hopefully at some stage he will be able to tell us if he has something which will tell you more.
Of course none of this helps you with the internal layout of your van, which is a shame. However, are you able to get some ideas from (say) holes in the floor for the sink and/or fridge outlet, and that sort of thing?
Don Ricardo
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Post by kerry1 on Jul 28, 2021 14:23:57 GMT 10
hi again Don and Hugh i have finally caught up with the photos an posts with both and yes the front is flat and in one piece and the man that sold it to the people that i bought it from had put extra vents to cover up a couple of accidents he caused to make it look better than it was there is a hatch and vent on the kitchen side but behind the large extra vent cover is not a hole but a small dent that i am fixing now i wont be putting in a stove ,fridge or kitchen just some home made cupboards and benches and a couch and then the out side will be replaced with a new skin of aluminium and then painted white with the green stripe to match what was there and a new coronet sticker with the crown above it and then it will reside at my home as an extra office until i get some more money to convert it back into a caravan in a year or two thanks again hugs to you both and maybe i will come to one of your events and show it off have a great weekend kerry1
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