Hi, I'm helping our library tag about 300 (ish) old B&W photos that contain whole or parts of a caravan. Rather than just tag with "caravan", I'd rather say "Millard caravan" or "Murrumba Star caravan". I just need a little assistance from time to time with some of the names that are too hard to read or I don't recognise them myself.
For example in this photo, I can see it starts with an "S" but on the Down History Lane index, there didn't seem to be a clear match beyond the "S". Don has previously shared with me that Down History Lane has a cut off date, so that could be why.
Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 6, 2021 14:32:33 GMT 10
Great to see the photos you've unearthed, and good on you for identifying the caravans as you catalogue them. Lots of old photos like these are just tagged with the make and model of the car in the photo, and say 'with caravan', which is disappointing because an important aspect of Australian history is lost or glossed over.
I've had a look at the van behind the station wagon and beside the house. I haven't yet been able to work out what the sign says, but hopefully someone else will have a light bulb moment. I agree with you that the signage consists of two words, with the first beginning with 'S'.
The van is quite clearly built in a 1960's style, so it 'belongs' here and the brandname should be identifiable...
I note that the station wagon is registered in Queensland, so does that mean the photo was taken there? If so, there's a good chance that the van was built in Queensland, because caravan manufacture and sales up until the mid 60's were very much state based.
Now for the 'Towa' van - I can't find any reference to 'Towa' anywhere, so it could be a name put on the van by an owner as you've suggested. Although it's possible that Towa was a small volume manufacturer that we just haven't come across yet. The van looks a bit like an Atlantic to me.
Let's see if other people come up with some ideas.
Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 7, 2021 14:50:19 GMT 10
Your eyes are not deceiving you. The van in your last photo is indeed a Viscount.
Between roughly 1968 and 1872 or 3, Viscount offered a variation of their Viscount models with fibreglass front and rear. There are some examples here. Based on the coloured flashes on the side, I think the van in the photo is from somewhere between 1968 and 1971.
ohh thanks! I thought it had the lines of a Viscount, but the Manufacturer name threw me. Doesn't look like "Viscount" or similar.
Thanks Don, regards kenny
It's pretty hard/impossible to read what's written on the front isn't it? I've checked out a few examples of the 'fibreglass Viscounts' and the signage on all of them that have it just says 'Viscount Duralvan', so I'm presuming that's what the signage on the van in your photo says, even though it doesn't quite look like it.
Looking at the other examples, I've also realised that only the fairly early vans from this series (ie 1968 to maybe 1970) actually have a little 'frame' built in to the edge over the front window to house the Viscount signage. Later vans didn't have the frame or apparently the same signage. Later ones just had a sticker saying 'Viscount'. So that confirms that the van in the photo is an early example because it has the frame.
Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 8, 2021 20:05:02 GMT 10
Looks like you've introduced a new form of the Spotto game to the forum!
I think the middle van in the series of three is homebuilt. It appears to have wooden window frames and therefore have been a good few years old, even when the photo was taken. The post-1964 cladding will have been added later.
And whoa Hughdeany...
Golden Hawk/Kite...sorry what? Tell us more. An interesting shape - 1970's or 80's??
Excellent detective works there Don, many thanks. I haven’t checked myself but is there a page on this informative site of the various brand decals? Ie Murrumba Star, Millard Capri. Etc Regards kenny
No, there isn't a thread just devoted to brand decals. Any information on those will be posted on the relevant brand thread in the Down History Lane section. That's where we try and accumulate the knowledge on each brand/manufacturer, although I can see that a 'decal/logo library' might be useful.
Hi Don, The van was a Golden Flyte now I’ve had a think about it!(I had half the name anyway!)They were a very nice shapely van from the mid seventies for not very long,aluminium frame and at the time most people thought it was a Chesney or Glendale . I owned one many years ago and it had a very Chesney feel to it,layout,running gear etc,don’t know if it was made by x Chesney or Glendale builders,but it wasn’t around for long.I have some pics and adds at home,but as I’m in Qld at the moment and won’t be home till October they will have to wait. Cheers hughdeany
Post by Don Ricardo on Jul 9, 2021 11:32:41 GMT 10
Hi Hughdeany and Kenny,
That's interesting to hear about the Golden Flyte vans. I quite like the styling - a bit different to the rectangular box approach.
I did a bit of a Google search for Golden Flyte, but the only thing I came up with was references to Golden Falcon Flyte caravans in the US which were built by Glendale in Canada. My take out from that is that since Glendale owned the Golden Flyte name in North America, caravans built(?) and sold under that name in Australia probably came from Glendale in Queensland. Reasonable assumption?
Kenny, since the Golden Flyte vans were built after the end of 1969, you won't find them listed in the DHL index. Normally they would be listed on our sister Classic Caravans forum, but I think it's not very active at the moment. In any case I can't find any reference to Golden Flyte there, so we will just have to wait for Hughdeany to provide more info when he's back home.