I have just purchased a Kara Kar 12 foot (I think) caravan. I'm trying to find out a little about it but nothing coming up. Only horse floats and goose necks. The previous owner seems to think its about a 1970. Anyone know of these caravans?? Thanks 😊
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 14, 2017 11:24:29 GMT 10
Very interesting to read about your Kara Kar caravan. Sorry that neither I nor anyone else has responded to your post, but in my case the delay has been because I have been looking for info on Kara Kar by searching newspaper adverts and articles, etc.
According to Kara Kar's current website (as I'm sure you've seen), Kara Kar commenced operations in 1962, and is still operating today. Their staple production over that time appear to have been manufacturing box trailers and horse floats (some of the modern versions of the latter look like they could be easily turned into caravans!). However, over the years they have been involved in the sale and hire of other types of vehicles. During the late 60's they advertised that they sold and hired out caravans, caravanettes (what we now call 'teardrops') and camper trailers.
I will document all of the above info in a day or so. Meanwhile it would be great to see some photos of your Kara Kar caravan - is it a full size caravan, a caravanette or camping trailer? 12 feet suggests that it is a full sized caravan?
There are instructions on how to post photos on the forum in the 'Forum Guidelines & Helpful Hints' section of the forum. The best way to do it is via Photobucket, which is a photo storage website. However, if it all seems a bit confusing, you're welcome to email me some photos and I'll post them for you. Just click on my forum name in blue in the panel to the left of this post and a new window will open up which will show you my email address.
It seems as if the Kara Kar story should have received more attention than it has, so it will be great to record some of the story on the forum, and to hear more about your caravan.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 29, 2017 13:16:07 GMT 10
Photos of Jendeneau's Kara Kar branded caravan, posted on her behalf:
This caravan is very evidently a Franklin Caravelle, and that is confirmed by the serial number of '232-6' Jendeneau found on the A-frame, indicating that the van was a Franklin built in 1966. However, there is also some other numbers that were found on the chassis which seems to read '7 100':
This may be a number assigned by Kara Kar which both sold and hired out caravans in the 1960's (see post to follow).
Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 29, 2017 16:48:17 GMT 10
Hi Jendeneau, SGTL and all,
There have been one or two references to Kara Kar on the forum - for example Franklin1's post referring to Kara Kar camper trailers here - but no details provided until Jendeneau's post which begins this thread and the photos of her caravan which are posted above.
According to Kara Kar's website, the company commenced production in 1962 and continues in operation today. It's main activity has been the manufacture of box trailers and horse floats. However, in its early days it seems that it dabbled in a few other areas, including manufacturing boat and car trailers, and selling the odd car and truck. From 1967 to 1969 it also sold and hired out caravans and caravanettes, and apparently produced camping trailers. In the beginning Kara Kar was located at 199 Paramatta Road, Flemington (NSW), but is now based in Nambucca Heads.
Based on a search via www.newspapers.com, the first advert for Kara Kar in the Sydney Morning Herald [SMH] was published in November 1966, but was only for box trailers:
(source: SMH, Saturday, 12 November 1966, page 55)
But then just after New Year in 1967 it advertised a 3-4 berth caravan for hire...
(Source: SMH, Saturday, 7 January 1967, page 32)
...and in the following week advertised two caravans for sale:
(Source: SMH, Wednesday, 11 January 1967, page 32, and Saturday, 14 January 1967, page 34)
The phrase 'good order' in the first of these adverts suggests that the caravans were second hand.
Two adverts a month later indicates that Kara Kar had box trailers and caravans both for sale and hire, without telling us much about the caravans:
(Source: Saturday, 23 February 1967, page 35)
However, an advert in March 1967 tells us that Kara Kar had new caravans for sale and hire:
(Source: SMH, Thursday, 20 March 1967, page 19)
And in May 1967, caravanettes were added to what was on offer:
(Source: SMH, Tuesday, 30 May 1967, page 24)
An advert from March 1968. tells us that the caravanettes were also 'new', and perhaps also tells us something about their origins with the reference to 'F'away'?
(Source: SMH, Saturday, 9 March 1968, page 39)
I haven't been able to decipher 'F'away', unless it's referring to Fairway caravans, but as far as we are aware Fairway was a small manufacturer that didn't produce caravanettes... Any suggestions as to what 'F'away' may mean are welcome!
After this advert, Kara Kar advertisements for caravans - but not trailers and horse floats - cease, at least in the SMH.
Based on the evidence we have thus far, it seems unlikely that Kara Kar produced its own caravans and caravanettes, but that instead it sold and hired out vans from other manufacturers, and possibly that it put its own branding on the vans it sold and/or hired out. Jendeneau's Kara Kar branded Franklin, shown above, seems to be one of them. And perhaps the Kara Kar branding and the additional '7 100' serial number tells us that that van was once part of the hire fleet?
All the same, it seems there is one further chapter in the Kara Kar caravan story, revealed in the following advert published in the SMH in May 1969:
(Source: SMH, Sunday, 18 May 1969, page 64)
Suttons Motors, which also involved itself in caravan sales (see here), advertised a Kara Kar Camping Trailer for sale. The advert says that the trailer was in good condition, suggesting that it was second hand. But this is evidence that Kara Kar produced camping trailers, which is perhaps not all that surprising for a trailer manufacturer. It would not be a big stretch to set some of the trailers up for camping. (Off on a tangent, note also that at that stage Suttons Motors was selling the Linda Star version of the Linda Walkabout slide on camper produced by Murrumba Star in Queensland.)