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Post by Geoff & Jude on Apr 3, 2017 11:29:27 GMT 10
G'day Angi, my old eyes can't see all the letters on it Cobber. hi cobber i'm sure you already know this, if you log in and click on the photo, you can see the enlarged version and the letters become quite evident. if you've already done this and still can't read the letters (2 are not readable), then you'd better get your eyes checked again.   geoff 'n jude |
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Post by cobber on Apr 3, 2017 14:03:59 GMT 10
G'day Geoff 'n Jude, Those two "not readable" letters are the ones I'm haveing trouble with  although the first one has me confused too  Your suggestions are welcome also, but another eye check won't fix anything, it's the ageing process that is concerning me, have you any suggestions as to how that can be reversed ?  Cobber. |
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Post by Geoff & Jude on Apr 3, 2017 17:33:51 GMT 10
another eye check won't fix anything, it's the ageing process that is concerning me, have you any suggestions as to how that can be reversed? Cobber. hi cobber i wouldn't know about the aging process, i'm much too young to worry about that sort of thing. anyway, since i got my new heart stents and support equipment, two new lenses to replace the old ones that had cataracts, an minor op to remove skin cancers, a few prosthetic teeth etc, i'm not worried about getting old anymore, although the potential for equipment failure is a bit of a concern. geoff ('n jude) ps - i spent a bit of time on the internet today trying to discover the manufacturer of the lock, but came up with nothing. all it did was make me a bit tired so i slipped onto the lounge and had a little sleep. |
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Post by angi on Apr 3, 2017 20:26:15 GMT 10
Hi Cobber and Ken,
That is hilarious! I can just imagine that too!
To answer your questions Cobber, I can only make out some of the letters. It looks like a long underscored 'L' followed by the following letters (LIN--RD) . I have tried googling all possible combinations but no luck.
Although I really liked the name Connie which as you know was short for constellation (particularly as in a van that size, it really is about star-gazing around a campfire, because there isn't so much going on inside!). My father also really loved the old Super Constellation Aircraft at Albion Park Airport. So the name Connie featured prominently as I was growing up.
But I think I have now settled on 'Old Rowley'. Rowley was a racehorse that won the Melbourne Cup in 1940. My Grandmother, who I was very close too, had dreamt that this horse would win the Melbourne Cup a year before it did (she dreamt the cover of the newspaper at the odds 100-1). Although the horse was scratched the year earlier, it went on to win at those same odds she dreamt the previous year.
I like that the 1940 probably fits with the age of the van, and I like the odds metaphor, of succeeding against those odds.
Perhaps she will be officially known as 'Old Rowley', but she can moonlight as 'Connie'. What do you reckon?
Angie
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Post by cobber on Apr 3, 2017 20:45:45 GMT 10
G'day Angie, I like the new name 'Old Rowley' and the reasons you have chosen it  I have also done a bit of research regarding the brand of your latch, with no success  'The general' told me he had advised you of a method to remove rust from a small part like your latch/catch. I did a Google and found a YouTube demonstration on what might well be your very own latch, I thought it was so good it is worth sharing with the rest of the forum ( I hope Graeme doesn't mind me doing that) have a look at it HERECobber. |
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Post by thegeneral on Apr 3, 2017 23:19:45 GMT 10
No I don"t mind Cobber it might be usefull to someone else I have see the result's of this method amazing.
Graeme
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Post by griffin on Apr 5, 2017 21:53:37 GMT 10
Hi Angie
For my two bobs worth I think your lock is a recycled door lock from a car of the 1930s, or earlier, maybe the one that donated the wheels? The hex holes look a bit rough to be original in my view and such a lock was screwed to the wooden frame with wood screws. A handle with a square shaft and Bob's your uncle. All my 30s vehicles have similar style door locks.
I searched through my 500 page 1923 Motor Trade Directory looking at the appropriate sections for the name Lin?rd as on your lock but with no success. There were not very many manufacturers listed for locks but lots of agents and importers in every State. With the lovely flourish of the L of the makers name I'm tending to think a British maker, the Brits took a bit more pride in their work.
As for cleaning it the electrolysis is a good system, molasses diluted in water, about 1 part to 4 water but it is messy and smelly and so clean it will start to rust immediately when remove and wash it. I've used both with good results and recently went mad and bought some Metal Rescue, a chemical cleaner, from REPCO. Expensive, but I found it really good for small items, slosh it in a bucket, leave it in the sun for a day and the items are clean and ready to go, back in the container for next time.
Hopefully see results at Shellharbour.
George
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Post by angi on Apr 6, 2017 16:56:18 GMT 10
Hi George,
Thank you so much for looking into the lock. I am really grateful for the information.
I was cleaning some fittings today and did find a patent number that I tried to look up on atmos, but no luck. It was a fitting to hold garments. I think it reads APP PAT No 1821.
The only other clue I have is the old lino that referenced the date the company was in operation from, since 1864.
I have attached a couple of pics.
General I watched the electrosis video, and it is so interesting. If I can't get my tow hitch to work by the weekend, I am going to give it a go.
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Post by angi on Apr 6, 2017 16:57:15 GMT 10
One more photo...
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Post by angi on Apr 6, 2017 17:31:15 GMT 10
Cobber!!!
Look what I found! My weeks of persisting on the tow hitch has paid off. I have found a trademark for you:
I think it reads
'The Fulton 00
Miwaukee, USA'
PATENT
APPLD FOR
Who would have thought trademarks could be so thrilling!!!!
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Post by cobber on Apr 6, 2017 19:59:27 GMT 10
G'day Angie, What an interesting old teardrop this is proving to be Not sure why I didn't post the research I did on this coupling in this thread but I did post it in the tow coupling thread HERE
I concluded it is a Marvel flip latch coupling The system was used on Atwood couplings and now we see also Fulton couplings and maybe others as well. There is an Australian company Fulton Industries that I don't think has any connection with the American company. It is great to see a date on the Lino, and now all we have to do is find where the Lino and garment holder were made. Cobber. |
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Post by cobber on Apr 8, 2017 20:22:48 GMT 10
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Post by angi on Apr 8, 2017 20:55:00 GMT 10
Hi Cobber,
Yes, that is it exactly! Any idea roughly how old you think it might be?
Thanks,
Angie
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Post by cobber on Apr 9, 2017 9:35:53 GMT 10
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Post by angi on Apr 9, 2017 13:30:55 GMT 10
Thanks so much Cobber for looking into it for me. It's so interesting! I found Fulton industries in the US, and emailed them a oic of the tow coupling, and also messaged another man on etsy. I'm hoping to hear something back.
Maybe I should be searching US patents for the 'teatowel' rails? I'd only been trying Australia, but I guess with the tow coupling being from the US, it makes sense.
Speaking of the van, I'd better get back to work!!!
Thanks again,
Angie
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Post by angi on Apr 15, 2017 18:35:56 GMT 10
Hi All, Happy Easter! Finally got a chance to take a few snaps of my progress. I was thinking about raising the white flag a couple of days ago! But I'm focused again, and getting back to work! Picked up some great old original arrow signal lights c1940 complete with 'eyebrows'. Cost a bomb, but only the best for the teardrop! I stopped counting the costs of the reno some time ago! Angie ![]() s53.photobucket.com/user/smcintosh79/library/Teardrop%201940s |
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Post by cobber on Apr 15, 2017 20:12:49 GMT 10
G'day Angie, And a happy Easter to you and yours too I thought you might have been teasing us when you said you might have Old Rowley ready for Shellharbour but I see it is entirely possible, keep at it, you're doing a great job looks like I had better make sure Ol '36 is ready for the trip to Shellharbour All the woodwork and metal bits are looking great and I see you have two of those tea towel/garment holders Did the Fulton Industries people in the U S of A get back to you ? Keep the photos coming Cobber. |
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Post by Mustang on Apr 16, 2017 10:11:36 GMT 10
Hi All, Happy Easter! Finally got a chance to take a few snaps of my progress. I was thinking about raising the white flag a couple of days ago! But I'm focused again, and getting back to work! Picked up some great old original arrow signal lights c1940 complete with 'eyebrows'. Cost a bomb, but only the best for the teardrop! I stopped counting the costs of the reno some time ago! Angie ![]() s53.photobucket.com/user/smcintosh79/library/Teardrop%201940sJust had a look at your images, well done. Think about recording your efforts & costs, its fun to look back on. |
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Post by angi on May 30, 2017 20:39:28 GMT 10
Hi All,
Just in some need of some advice. I had hoped to be sharing a pic of my fancy new powder-coated spoked wheels, but there has been some issues during the process.
I have attached some pics. I would also be grateful if anyone can date the age of these wheels and axel.
The springs near the axel is marked either S.G.9.25 (but the G could be a C or an O). The two original wheels were different. One was Dunlop (marked 1925) and the other was Goodyear (marked c19X3 and also 7E4 65).
The last picture is of an old spoon I found in the teardrop. Interestingly, I was in an antique shop in Kangaroo Valley and found a matching set of these 'Apostle' spoons dated 1935-8. Not reliable in dating the van, but I guess it fits the period.
I took the wheels to a powder coater in Wollongong. After sandblasting, I received a call that the two 'spare' wheels had rusted through in areas and would need repair. They went on to prime the 2 original wheels, and I received a call after they baked them and was told they were in a bad state, leaking lead and oil everywhere. They also sustained some damage and were not suitable for powdercoating.I was told I would need to get them wet-sprayed.
It has been suggested that I take the wheels to a 'TIC' welder for repair? There are lots of compressions around the rim and dimples (and one large area of damage where it appears to have been sucked like in a .vacuum).
Thank you for your continued help.
Angie
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Post by angi on May 30, 2017 20:49:13 GMT 10
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Post by Mustang on May 31, 2017 8:43:57 GMT 10
Thats bad luck, now that you have gone this far I guess it would be valuable to have a TIG welders opinion.
TIG welding is very clever these days
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Post by angi on May 31, 2017 9:16:22 GMT 10
Thanks for your reply Mustang. I hope to get these wheels right. It is all dollars!! I got a quote from an electroplater the other day who wants $400 to chrome the hubcaps and bolts. I am going to shop around, but at I love these wheels so much, I am determined to get them back on and looking good asap! Cheers, Angi
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Post by humpynvan on May 31, 2017 12:49:27 GMT 10
if you have no luck, let me know as i know a guy up here in Brisbane that would probably be able to weld up and repair your wheels, He isnt cheap though, but im sure he could get them repaired and ready to powder coat for you
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Post by angi on May 31, 2017 18:20:25 GMT 10
Thanks so much humpynvan. I should have a better idea on Saturday, but I'll definately be in touch if I have no luck. Really appreciate the reply.
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Post by Koala on May 31, 2017 19:25:04 GMT 10
Hi Angi
Can you tell me what the wheels originally came from?
I will check my contacts for some good ones.
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although the first one has me confused too 
