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Post by chrissie05 on Apr 10, 2015 21:22:18 GMT 10
Hi all, I bid on a caravan on ebay after going out to see it last night. It all looked fairly good. However I became suspicious of the bidding since there was only one other bidder. In the end, I was outbid which was good in hindsight. The seller then contacted me today saying that the successful bidder did not get in contact with her even though she has sent them a number of emails and she has a 'gut feeling' about this guy...even though she hasn't heard from him so how could she know it is a he! And not giving somebody 24 hour to get in contact...Anyhow, I suspected that she had her friend bid on her behalf to see how much I would pay. So, now she sends me a second chance offer to buy the caravan at the price of my last bid! Should I report her to ebay? It's called 'shilling' and it's illegal.
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Post by DC3Td on Apr 10, 2015 22:11:24 GMT 10
Hmmm.You have seen the van.You apparently like it.So go out & buy it & forget about anything else.As an aside a winning bidders details are privy to the Seller.
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Post by mibosa on Apr 10, 2015 22:20:01 GMT 10
What you THINK might have happened and what you can PROVE might have happened are two different things. Only ebay will know, by looking at the relevant transactions in the bidding and email transactions and they will not tell you what they have found, if they even chose to look at a complaint you make. In the 'ebay environment' I would suggest your complaint would be considered 'trivial'. Get over your frustration and buy the van!
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Post by Kara van Olden on Apr 11, 2015 10:30:30 GMT 10
Hi all, I bid on a caravan on ebay... So you bid the amount that you thought it was worth? Sounds fair! So you now have the opportunity to buy it at what you thought it was worth...with no more competition from other bidders? Because, at the end of the auction, ebay sent the buyers details to the seller? Perhaps she suffers from Itchy Trigger Finger Syndrome? Yes No...but ebay don't allow it. It's ebay...get over it?
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Post by pawnee on Apr 11, 2015 10:39:34 GMT 10
Hi all, I bid on a caravan on ebay... So you bid the amount that you thought it was worth? Sounds fair! So you now have the opportunity to buy it at what you thought it was worth...with no more competition from other bidders? Because, at the end of the auction, ebay sent the buyers details to the seller? Perhaps she suffers from Itchy Trigger Finger Syndrome? Yes No...but ebay don't allow it. It's ebay...get over it?
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Post by pawnee on Apr 11, 2015 10:45:40 GMT 10
wots your problem,you are the highest bidder under the reserve,the seller is prepared to sell at your offered price,standard auction practice.I bought my van this way.If you want the van at the price you offered,I suggest you get clicking.
Good luck
John
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Post by shesgotthelook on Apr 11, 2015 12:16:59 GMT 10
This happens a lot on ebuy. First van we ever bought, definitely got his friend to bid & even left positive feedback for him! I let it slide for a few weeks then rang the seller & asked if van was still for sale & would he take $xxxx ? He accepted It is very difficult to prove & a lot of unnecessary stress. If you really love the van, make them an offer, otherwise, let it go, there will always be another. I much prefer 'buy now or make offer ' to bidding wars (although sniping is fun). Then you know what the seller wants & if you feel it is worth that amount & are happy to pay it, then both parties are satisfied. Too much emotion wrapped up in auctions
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Post by kingswood308 on Apr 11, 2015 19:37:05 GMT 10
Three guests , two guests write in the same format, never seen that before except for now.
I wonder ....................................
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 11, 2015 20:38:50 GMT 10
G'day kingswood308 Nah, the second guest was just quoting the first, and then posted again to say what he/she really wanted to say. chrissie05, Why not get hold of some pre-decimal currency and pay the price in shillings?!
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Post by mibosa on Apr 11, 2015 21:55:51 GMT 10
Hopefully we haven't been too harsh in our responses! I am hoping that she is towing it home now, or already has it parked in her yard or in a garage and taking photographs and thinking about her project. I agree with the comments of shesgotthelook, you might spend more than you want to on the purchase, but then might need to budget on other areas as your finances or restoration/renovation needs dictate.
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Post by Kara van Olden on Apr 12, 2015 8:27:50 GMT 10
.....pay the price in shillings?! Hahahahahaha.....ROFL.....hahahahaha....that's really funny....hahahahaha....oh dear!...I think I've had an accident and will have to change some of my subterranean attire...hahahaha!
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Post by DC3Td on Apr 12, 2015 8:58:47 GMT 10
So tell us Kara van Olden/Older Caravan,do you have a vin van in your life & if so why not tell us about it?
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Post by chrissie05 on Apr 12, 2015 9:09:59 GMT 10
I think you have been a little harsh to be honest. When I viewed the caravan I offered to negotiate there and then but she wanted to go 'through' with the auction.It had been up for sale for a month both on gumtree and ebay. I don't respect dummy bidding nor lying. I understand wanting to get a good price. In hindsight, it's good that kinda stuck to a budget. I definitely won't be offering what I bid on. I'm happy to wait for another van.
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Post by penguin on Apr 12, 2015 10:21:31 GMT 10
So tell us Kara van Olden/Older Caravan,do you have a vin van in your life & if so why not tell us about it? I was thinking they had a car: a Holden van. Maybe an older caravan and a Holden sandman?
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Post by atouchofglass on Apr 12, 2015 10:26:18 GMT 10
Hi Chrissie I too was surprised by the jump down your throat attitude of some of the posters on this thread. This isn't normal - sometimes emotion gets the better of the posters. You have the right to spend your money, your way. If you feel there is a problem you will most likely carry that feeling on should you buy the van. You've chosen wisely to wait. There are always other vans out there. Who knows - maybe a van you reeeeeeeeally wanted is just waiting around the corner. All the best with your vv hunt. Atog
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Post by andys on Apr 12, 2015 11:54:56 GMT 10
I've bought plenty of cars, bikes and other stuff from over east (I'm in Perth), each time needing to transfer funds to a bloke I've never met, to buy a vehicle I've never actually seen in person. My logic is that within 30 seconds you can tell how trust worthy a person is over the phone (even faster face to face) and if they are someone you'd do business with. I've never had any of these purchases go bad, and every vehicle (well almost every vehicle !!) arrived in the condition I expected.
Price aside, it seems to me that the person who owns the van might not be someone you're comfortable doing business with (for whatever reason), so walk away, they'll be plenty more vans for sale at the right time, for the right price and for sale by the right person.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Apr 12, 2015 14:06:00 GMT 10
...it seems to me that the person who owns the van might not be someone you're comfortable doing business with (for whatever reason), so walk away, they'll be plenty more vans for sale at the right time, for the right price and for sale by the right person. Hi Chrissie05, Well done on your handling of this situation and your final decision. I agree with the comments made by Andys and ATOG. It's better to wait than to go into something you're not comfortable with. Don Ricardo
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Post by carnut on Apr 12, 2015 20:06:40 GMT 10
I agree with Andys and ATOG too. Go with your gut instinct . And you don't need to justify your decision or feelings to anyone . I once bought a 1963 Nissan Cedric from a guy on eBay. It had been advertised on fleabay a few times (I checked the seller's completed items) when I saw it. It was 4 hr drive away but I got in my car and drove down to have a look at it. The guy said he'd had an offer of $1000 for it although the start bid was $600. If I wanted it, I had to pay $1000. I smelled a rat straight away but I really wanted the car so I agreed to the $1000. I bought the car without bidding on eBay but when I got the car home, I found that the supposed "other bidder" had left positive feedback telling everybody what a great bloke the seller was . Unbelievable, but it at least confirmed my suspicions. I don't appreciate being lied to either, and I was pretty shitty about it for ages afterwards but hey.....I'm still glad I bought the car as I did really want it, and the extra $400 doesn't really matter in the big picture. It's not every day that a '63 Cedric comes on the market . Sometimes you have to put your hand in a shit tin to find a gold watch. That's just how life is . I also had a situation with a real estate agent that really annoyed me. I put a contract on a house and the agent withheld presenting it to the vendor to "see if a better offer came in". I later found out that the principal of the agency bought the house and I was pretty unhappy about that too. Once the house was ready to rent, I got the agency girls around to take photos and they put it on realestate.com for rent. They had it for ages......no takers. They pissed in my pocket and lied and pull all sorts of capers trying to keep it on their books. So I took it to another agency, and now it's rented. While it was advertised with the "new" agency, the "old" agency rang me up and said they had six interested parties that had looked at another house in the same street and that they'd be able to rent it straight away if I came back to them. I declined their offer . I've had experiences with lying real estate agents before and I was trusting my gut instinct on this one . It's a shame, but we all have to deal with #%$*holes like that from time to time. It's the sort of situation where you just have to walk away and trust that karma will take care of it for you .....
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