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Post by shesgotthelook on Jan 6, 2015 8:41:55 GMT 10
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 6, 2015 9:46:54 GMT 10
Anyone out there close to this that could check it out ? Don't like its chances ! Tarped outside for 15years!!
PM me if you can cheers
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Post by gilbert on Jan 6, 2015 14:54:49 GMT 10
I asked her if I could inspect before bidding to see how much of the roof is rotted out as it's been outside with a poly tarp over the roof only for many many years I was told photos form the description and I said is cash on pick up ok as I like to make sure item is there I was told B Pay only can any one tell me what B Pay is I won't be bidding
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Post by Asche Phalte on Jan 6, 2015 16:38:14 GMT 10
can any one tell me what B Pay is Maybe B is for Beware? |
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Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 6, 2015 16:42:06 GMT 10
G'day Gilbert, Bpay is a method of electronic funds transfer where you can make a payment online/by phone giving the seller's numerical ID and a unique account number for the purchaser. If you haven't come across it, it is a payment method used extensively by utility providers,etc, with many thousands of customers each of whom has an account, eg for gas, electricity. It is an efficient payment method for both seller and purchaser in those circumstances. In this case, although the seller mentions Bpay in her advert and also mentioned it to you when you contacted her, I'm pretty sure she is referring to PayPal which the Ebuy listing states is the only method of payment. I doubt if the seller is registered for Bpay herself and would then go to the bother of assigning a unique account number to the purchaser of the van. More likely a bit of confusion over the two terms on her part...  Don Ricardo |
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Post by gilbert on Jan 6, 2015 20:18:50 GMT 10
G'day Gilbert, Bpay is a method of electronic funds transfer where you can make a payment online/by phone giving the seller's numerical ID and a unique account number for the purchaser. If you haven't come across it, it is a payment method used extensively by utility providers,etc, with many thousands of customers each of whom has an account, eg for gas, electricity. It is an efficient payment method for both seller and purchaser in those circumstances. In this case, although the seller mentions Bpay in her advert and also mentioned it to you when you contacted her, I'm pretty sure she is referring to PayPal which the Ebuy listing states is the only method of payment. I doubt if the seller is registered for Bpay herself and would then go to the bother of assigning a unique account number to the purchaser of the van. More likely a bit of confusion over the two terms on her part... Don Ricardo thank you Don much appreciated |
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 6, 2015 21:23:38 GMT 10
Owner selling on behalf of third party and can't get any more pics ! Couldn't even tell me if it has a draw bar ! Won't allow me to chat on the phone either I was keen but am very wary unless I can get answers! Bummer
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Post by gilbert on Jan 7, 2015 10:10:46 GMT 10
Hi akeepsake I asked her many questions she wouldn't let me phone her or pay cash on pick up wouldn't put up any more photos of rotted roof , I can't work out why cash on pick up wouldn't be the way to go I asked about draw bar wasn't sure if it had one ,I have sent her another message if she doesn't know much about van how does she know how much rot is in roof or sides.then all the years outside in the open wouldn't do van much good any way
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Post by vantoura on Jan 7, 2015 10:50:12 GMT 10
Hi Gilbert and akeepsake.
There is only one reason why she wants payment up front and not cash on pick up. If you pay by Bpay or however she wants payment and you get there and the van isnt as
good as it looked you are committed to take it as she has your money.
Cheers.
Richard
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Post by gilbert on Jan 7, 2015 10:53:28 GMT 10
I agree 100% vantoura and that's why they wouldn't let me pay cash on pick up or view the van.
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 7, 2015 13:15:53 GMT 10
Mmmm Agree Richard and Gilbert I'm going to give it a wide berth ! Coincidentally it's from the same area as the recent "bargain"Skyline that was thought to be dodgy!
Shame was after another little 10 footer. One for each child!!!
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Post by shesgotthelook on Jan 9, 2015 11:24:15 GMT 10
If they won't let you inspect, then it is a scam. Stay away!
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Post by cobber on Jan 9, 2015 13:14:31 GMT 10
Personally........... I don't think this van looks to bad.
I'd guess an inexperienced seller, not aware what price a good plywood van can fetch, and not actually in possession of the van, and not realising people need to inspect these things before coughing up with the dough, or even making a bid.
If they will only accept PayPal.... which is what I suspect they mean instead of Bpay, (somebody should ask them) I would be asking if I could do the transaction at the time of pickup, awkward I know, but I reckon somebody who has not read the negative comments on this forum might pick up a bargain here.
DEFINITELY ! don't pay before seeing the van in the flesh.
Cobber.
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 9, 2015 13:36:51 GMT 10
Jury still out on this one I tend to think your right Cobber and Sgtl I'm a bit suss as well ! Mmmm time will tell
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Post by gilbert on Jan 10, 2015 10:43:55 GMT 10
She said to me BPay before pick up no cash on pick up being outside in the weather for that long a plywood van would deteriorate so fast
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 11, 2015 0:08:26 GMT 10
Check out the latest pics carefully ! The picture front on showing the drawbar also shows what looks to be a very rotted section of roof as the moulding has fallen off where it once was held and is hanging down! Shame really I think if you did cash on pickup you wouldn't part with it hence Bpay before!!!!
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Post by gilbert on Jan 11, 2015 8:09:04 GMT 10
That's why she wants you to pay before pick up , because you have to take it once she has your money,
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Post by cobber on Jan 11, 2015 9:48:15 GMT 10
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Post by Asche Phalte on Jan 11, 2015 10:44:54 GMT 10
you have to take it once she has your money But surely you wouldn't want to take it before she had your money? |
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Post by Asche Phalte on Jan 11, 2015 11:12:38 GMT 10
Like I said above... a very inexperienced seller who didn't realise old caravans are popular and attract a crowd... Cobber. But from the description they can identify a vintage bondwood van, a 15" Vanguard wheel, a strengthened drawbar, low voltage ceiling lights, a 21/4" hitch coupling, a factory fitted lift jack.... I agree this is not a scammer, but from the description they not clueless either and I'm pretty sure they are aware of the popularity of small vintage bondies. It appears that the seller is not allowing inspections because they don't have possession or control over visitor access? As for Paypal payment upfront, some items seem to attract serial bidders & lame buyers that fail to show up after winning an item. This equates to lost time and money for the seller. Maybe this seller has been burnt before and has wised up? Selling an item for a third party is risky because it's the seller that is contracted and is legally responsible and will cop any negatives that may arise. Bottom line is that looks like it could be a bit of a gamble, worst case scenario = rot ridden donor van, best case = restorable gem. If you don't like the odds, don't bid?
Cheers Asche
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 11, 2015 11:19:50 GMT 10
I think the issue here isn't that we think he/she is a scammer , it's that we can't really get an accurate idea of the real condition of what could be a real gem or a bondfire starter! I personally really like it and think it's got potential but as we all know with that kind of damage I'm sure the frames rotten  Anyway do you think it's a Wayfarer? |
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Post by Asche Phalte on Jan 12, 2015 17:33:44 GMT 10
Well my (token) bid has been blown away! Good 15" Vanguard wheels aren't all that easy to find these days but I'm not sure that I want to go any higher.
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Post by gilbert on Jan 12, 2015 20:57:41 GMT 10
Van sold not to me wasn't worth the risk but being outside that long it would have to be rotted out in the roof
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 12, 2015 23:31:59 GMT 10
I reckon the sellers happy....but the buyer? Hope it works out well for them!
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Post by gilbert on Jan 13, 2015 13:24:27 GMT 10
How do you know the sellers happy
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...... not a 'scammer' ....... be nice people 
....... I don't know why some of you jump to the conclusion that the seller is a 'she' 
