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Jun 24, 2014 7:37:40 GMT 10
Post by Roehm3108 on Jun 24, 2014 7:37:40 GMT 10
So glad you guys have decided to reduce that front window size. Personally, I would only go the width as the current opening and not try to widen it any more. But that would be your choice, I agree with others - make the window the same height as the rear one, if there are no visible indicators (nail/screw holes) of where the original was placed. One or two frames? Depends on how energetic you are!!
While I'm on a roll at handing out advice, perhaps give some thought to lowering the van and moving the axle above the springs rather than under them? If you look at kfisher's rig, it sits lower and to my mind would have a better centre of gravity, You want to reduce the tendency for a little van to develop the wobbles as much as you can. I noticed that when I brought my van home from Victoria, when a B double passed me, it did want to start to wobble. Not dramatically, but whatever you can do to reduce that is worth considering. Because they lack weight, these little vans handle differently.
Good luck with it all
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Jun 24, 2014 17:48:09 GMT 10
Post by lolabess on Jun 24, 2014 17:48:09 GMT 10
So glad you guys have decided to reduce that front window size. Personally, I would only go the width as the current opening and not try to widen it any more. But that would be your choice, I agree with others - make the window the same height as the rear one, if there are no visible indicators (nail/screw holes) of where the original was placed. One or two frames? Depends on how energetic you are!! While I'm on a roll at handing out advice, perhaps give some thought to lowering the van and moving the axle above the springs rather than under them? If you look at kfisher's rig, it sits lower and to my mind would have a better centre of gravity, You want to reduce the tendency for a little van to develop the wobbles as much as you can. I noticed that when I brought my van home from Victoria, when a B double passed me, it did want to start to wobble. Not dramatically, but whatever you can do to reduce that is worth considering. Because they lack weight, these little vans handle differently. Good luck with it all Thanks for the reply Yes it is an absolute must that this van ends up lower to the pavement. The axle is already on top of the springs unfortunately as this would have been an easy fix. The previous owner had new wheels axle and brakes and springs fitted and now we have a van way way to high. Another problem is that the axle is to long and the wheels will hit the frame if you go over a decent bump, so the hole things a mess. Cheers
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Post by lolabess on Jun 30, 2014 21:13:54 GMT 10
Time for some more pics Windows ready to install Time to sort the back end Back frame and windows I have stuck with 2 x 1 pine framing as was originally used.All framing Running under the floor will be primed and bitchumened for total protection.
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Jun 30, 2014 21:51:38 GMT 10
Post by Franklin1 on Jun 30, 2014 21:51:38 GMT 10
I'm still trying to get my head around the van pictured in the first photo in this thread, is the same van pictured above. I would never have thought it would need such major surgery. Your photos are great for showing the detail of the framework and window repairs. That sort of info is very helpful to others contemplating the same sort of work. I'm a bit disappointed there are no chunks sawn off the saw horse showing in your photo above - only shallow cuts. Surely you must have accidentally lopped a bit off it at some time or other, like all good caravan renovators... (...and no Paslode nail gun showing in the photos either - I mean, c'mon!, are you a fair dinkum carpenter, or what?!! ). Great work being done though! cheers, Al.
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Jun 30, 2014 22:20:47 GMT 10
Post by lolabess on Jun 30, 2014 22:20:47 GMT 10
I'm still trying to get my head around the van pictured in the first photo in this thread, is the same van pictured above. I would never have thought it would need such major surgery. Your photos are great for showing the detail of the framework and window repairs. That sort of info is very helpful to others contemplating the same sort of work. I'm a bit disappointed there are no chunks sawn off the saw horse showing in your photo above - only shallow cuts. Surely you must have accidentally lopped a bit off it at some time or other, like all good caravan renovators... (...and no Paslode nail gun showing in the photos either - I mean, c'mon!, are you a fair dinkum carpenter, or what?!! ). Great work being done though! cheers, Al. Thanks Franklin, love the comments. The first pics u have seen of the complete van are of the van as we bought it and taken just after we had towed it home. Does look good dosn,t it.Goes to show you how people could get caught out buying over the net just going on photos. Windows are brand new made from scratch and built properly. I am hoping that people will ask for advice . Only used a nail gun for half a dozen nails.Everthing thing possible is scewed together We are having a ball even though it is slow progress and very time consuming over the weekends. Thanks for following the thread. Cheers
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Jun 30, 2014 22:30:59 GMT 10
Post by akeepsake on Jun 30, 2014 22:30:59 GMT 10
Great job Lolabess! Right proportion windows , right approach and by what I've seen so far the right tradie behind the tools! Well done!
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Jun 30, 2014 22:51:25 GMT 10
Post by DC3Td on Jun 30, 2014 22:51:25 GMT 10
Now you`re cooking Lolabess.Those sized windows give it such a great look & balance well with the overall look. What thickness timbers did you use for the top/bottom curved frame sections? cheers gordon
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Jul 1, 2014 7:22:29 GMT 10
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Post by lolabess on Jul 1, 2014 7:22:29 GMT 10
Now you`re cooking Lolabess.Those sized windows give it such a great look & balance well with the overall look. What thickness timbers did you use for the top/bottom curved frame sections? cheers gordon Hi Gordon That is laminated marine ply from top to bottom. It was originally ply only on the top bend but I felt for strength I would go the whole length of the corners to eliminate all to joins in the timber that were there
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Jul 18, 2014 13:52:16 GMT 10
Post by King Fisher on Jul 18, 2014 13:52:16 GMT 10
Hi Lolabess, When I first saw your pics I did a real double take! I thought I was looking at this van - or at least its sister... ... The above van belongs to Kfisher. The general shape is the same as yours and it's probably from around the same era, but of course there are more differences than similarities really. It was probably the similarity in the colour of the paint of the two vans that made me blink a couple of times when i saw your van. I have to admit that I also took a double look at this van. Interesting, The outside is a very similar shape although there are many differences. Like your frame does not have a diagonal brace and it looks to be single skinned where ours is clad on the inside. Love the work you are doing on this loverly old van and I'm excited to see more pickies of the resto process. PS: I'm a bit gealous that you have a port hole , love port hole windows...
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Jul 21, 2014 11:38:12 GMT 10
Post by King Fisher on Jul 21, 2014 11:38:12 GMT 10
... We are trying to keep as much of the original van as possible but it is difficult with so much rot.Chassis, floor, roof, cupboards can all stay. Worried that if you replaced everything you couldn't say it was original. ... There has been a lot of discussions about modifying and restoring on this forum over the time but I think the general consensus is that such repairs as replacing rotten parts is basically like maintenance. Just think about a car in original showroom condition at a show, does it still have it's original brake pads and tires? Probably not, yet it is still original. I think nobody here would complain about replacing framing or rotted wood, it's part of owning a wooden van. We took the view of 80% Restoration and 20% Renovation on our reno, and made some mods for safety and convenience. Someone here once said something similar to: if you owned a van from the beginning you would make changes to it over the years of use anyway. I think the main thing is to stay true to the character of the van and in the end do what you are happy with, as you're going to be seeing and using it the most. Love the work you are doing and keep the pickies coming. PS: the smaller front windows look heaps better
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Post by lolabess on Aug 14, 2014 20:45:14 GMT 10
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Aug 14, 2014 21:31:35 GMT 10
Post by DC3Td on Aug 14, 2014 21:31:35 GMT 10
Well thats certainly a good look.You mentioned earlier about axle/springs/wheels - guess you`ll be changing them.I`m thinking also about clearance between top of tyres & wheel arches? Anyways keep up the great work. gordon
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Jul 22, 2018 8:22:40 GMT 10
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Post by lolabess on Jul 22, 2018 8:22:40 GMT 10
It's been a long time But she's on her way again
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Post by lolabess on Jul 22, 2018 8:28:26 GMT 10
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Post by lolabess on Jul 22, 2018 8:30:20 GMT 10
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Post by lolabess on Jul 22, 2018 8:59:55 GMT 10
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Jul 22, 2018 9:03:03 GMT 10
Post by strugglebrook on Jul 22, 2018 9:03:03 GMT 10
Coming along great.
JD.
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Jul 22, 2018 9:42:18 GMT 10
Post by aussieute on Jul 22, 2018 9:42:18 GMT 10
Great job hard to believe it is the same van with the new window frames looks good cheers chris
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Jul 22, 2018 12:17:50 GMT 10
Post by Roehm3108 on Jul 22, 2018 12:17:50 GMT 10
Give them the YAY for the day!!! Well done! Have you overcome the Axle/wheels problem? What did you end up doing to lower the van? An interesting touch with that proud timber moulding. Not something seen too often, but rather effective! You must be so pleased to be at the point you are now.
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Jul 23, 2018 7:44:22 GMT 10
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Jul 23, 2018 7:48:05 GMT 10
Post by lolabess on Jul 23, 2018 7:48:05 GMT 10
Thanks for the comments.Its been a long haul on and off. With the height problem I extended the sides of the van down a bit then yet to have a drop axle made to suit eh holden rims.
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Jul 23, 2018 12:54:13 GMT 10
Post by Roehm3108 on Jul 23, 2018 12:54:13 GMT 10
Oops, I just noticed that you don't seem to have any sort of edge moulding on the corners where the walls meet the roof/back & front wall. What did you do there?
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Post by lolabess on Jul 23, 2018 20:57:46 GMT 10
Oops, I just noticed that you don't seem to have any sort of edge moulding on the corners where the walls meet the roof/back & front wall. What did you do there? We havw just stripped original edge moulding of all paint and it will go on next weekend
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