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Post by stephen&Julie on Oct 26, 2013 14:24:57 GMT 10
Hi, Nice original van in good condition with minor panel work on the rear and a good tidy up, 16" wheels, 16' foot long with click clack front bed and rear dining that folds down as well,gal bath under dinning seat the roof does not have a hatch and is canite canvas covering, single sheet lined,ply floor not planked Any idea of year and maker ?? Cheers S&J
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Post by hilldweller on Oct 26, 2013 17:50:32 GMT 10
Mmmm nice van . There are some similarities between your van and Mabel, who I think is 1940s (though that's not definite). What's the interior like in its styling? Deco-ish? What are the wheels - can you date them?
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Post by stephen&Julie on Oct 26, 2013 19:19:36 GMT 10
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Post by stephen&Julie on Oct 28, 2013 8:18:20 GMT 10
Hi All, This is the set up underneath, looks fairly primitive, could someone shed the light on this setup please Cheers S&J
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Post by kaybee on Oct 28, 2013 9:41:32 GMT 10
....primitive,yep.....probably has something to do with the axle and brakes being off a 1933/34 Ford V8 car , wheels would originally have been 17" wire wheels ,although the 1935 16" wires are a direct bolt on,as are later 1940 thru '48 Ford regular all steel 16" wheels ( although they don't quite seat properly on those drums).......does that help? ;D ,cheers, Col.
PS,the multi leaf springs look like they might be Ford too ,maybe '37/40 rear passenger car......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 14:31:31 GMT 10
These ones show the hub to be closer to the hub Kaybee.
When did they go from wire to hubs with the studs closer to the rim with the V8s ?? (As on the outside of the rim like VW and FJ for instance )
Jilly
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Post by kaybee on Oct 28, 2013 15:15:32 GMT 10
Hi Jilly, I'm not quite sure what you meant in that first sentence ,so I'll answer the 2nd one .....in 1936 Ford changed to the large stud pattern that the modern trendies ;D... now call "wide fives" , they ran them through until the end of 1939 when they changed to the more modern steel wheels for 1940....except on their 3/4 ton pickups which used the wide fives until around 1946-ish.....and English Ford Pilots used them in their entire production run as well.
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Post by stephen&Julie on Oct 30, 2013 18:40:55 GMT 10
Thanks Col, will start with a lite sandblast and clean, is there much in the way of restoring this setup, like bushes or rubbers etc ? or is this welded up so nothing moves. Cheers S&J
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Post by kaybee on Oct 31, 2013 8:48:50 GMT 10
Thanks Col, will start with a lite sandblast and clean, is there much in the way of restoring this setup, like bushes or rubbers etc ? or is this welded up so nothing moves. Cheers S&J ....nup,there's not much in there. You might find the stub axles welded to the axle ,but sometimes they'll be bracketed from the steering arms back to the axle ( looks like yours might be).....in which case you can pull things apart. Start with the sandblast and see what you find and what the condition is of the parts . If you need parts, I still have few early Ford bits like Kingpins ,etc..... cheers......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 9:20:41 GMT 10
Are wheel bearings and seals easily available Col ??
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Post by kaybee on Oct 31, 2013 12:38:07 GMT 10
Are wheel bearings and seals easily available Col ?? ...available yes,easily... no, they can be a bit of a chore to track down and fairly pricey when you do. Seals shouldn't be too much trouble , but if you do strike out locally you could try AA Bearings in Nunawading,Vic. The gent that runs it ,Dennis, specializes in hard to find bearings and seals and will do mail order for you.....good luck , Col.
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Post by stephen&Julie on Nov 2, 2013 22:45:22 GMT 10
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Post by cruisindoug on Nov 3, 2013 6:28:25 GMT 10
Wow Steve and Julie another van! It does look like a beauty such great condition. What are the boxes on the floor either side for next to the kitchen / wardrobe? No doubt about it, that Reddotel bondwood van finder works a treat! ;D
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Post by DC3Td on Nov 3, 2013 6:50:28 GMT 10
Wow.Very classy.Love the clock too.
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Post by cobber on Nov 3, 2013 7:02:34 GMT 10
G'day Stephen & Julie, Discoveries like this give those of us interested in "Preserving Australia's Touring History" great inspiration..... They are still out there... just waiting to be rescued Love the Lino ... Love the ceiling Cobber.
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Post by Miss Molly on Nov 3, 2013 7:07:19 GMT 10
Oh MY S&J!! I'm with cobber..luuurve the ceiling and lino... Congratulations! MMx
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Post by stephen&Julie on Nov 3, 2013 7:39:36 GMT 10
Hi, the small box's each side Dougy are due to axle set up underneath, check photo's above you can see the cavity and for some reason they finished the box's in leather and lino on top. Cobber, we are going to contact the lady in Wynnum Brisbane to find more about the history on this van, going by bits and pieces it maybe middle late 30's or early 40's, there is some newspaper clippings found inside but had no date on them but some great reading and early photos of some lady's in there period dress Cheers S&J
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Post by seeshell on Nov 3, 2013 10:05:39 GMT 10
Hi Stephen&Julie Thanks for the offer - I'd LOVE to come and inspect your home! Your newest acquisition looks quite flash with her coffered roof, and printed lino on both the floor and counters. It certainly has a whiff of "stately home on wheels", what with the brocade seats in the "dining room" and the touring-essential mantle clock! Let me know when Carson rings the gong, so I can change for dinner. I'm no expert on van shapes or makes, but the colour palate is very late 1930s/early 1940s, and probably earlier rather than later. It's always possible it's been changed, but that seems unlikely since even the ticking on the bed seems to be original, and if memory serves it's quite similar to the heavy cotton fabric that was in Cobber's Ol' 36 before she was reupholstered. Obviously the choice before vinyl became king in the 1950s! A very lovely find - well done to you both! Cheers Seeshell
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Post by shesgotthelook on Nov 3, 2013 11:07:38 GMT 10
If you decide you don't want that manky old lino I really wish some of these outrageous patterns would come back into fashion so I you could buy it!
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Post by cobber on Nov 3, 2013 16:08:48 GMT 10
I think the fabric that was in ol '36 was installed in the 50s ? .... but whoever did it may have shopped around for 30s style fabric to do the job... quite possibly.
Stephen and Julie..... can you tell me if the glass in any of the windows is "wavy glass" i.e. it shows distortion when you look through it ?
Cobber.
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Post by Gypsy 10 on Nov 3, 2013 16:16:46 GMT 10
Oh my Oh my what a find, Good luck in the restoration. I'm still shaking my head what a find.
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Post by barkpaint on Nov 3, 2013 17:19:22 GMT 10
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Post by seeshell on Nov 3, 2013 17:26:23 GMT 10
Hi Cobber Yes I remember that now you say it. Before vinyl became more widely used, heavy cotton duck (also called canvas or barkcloth) was used to cover mattresses and do upholstery. Stripes, tartans or variegated plains were common. Woven in patterns (jacquard) and prints meant you had a bit more dosh! A sample of the original variegated plain from DonR's Don Caravan (with faint zig-zag woven pattern - fancy!): Stripes and variegated plains (with two different colour threads for warp and weave) were easiest and cheapest to set up on looms - so they show up the most. You could get it it single colours (with warp and weft threads the same colour like beige or green) too, which looked more "uniform" and less busy. But putting myself in the place of the mother of the day, I'm guessing the "busier" fabrics would not show dirt/water/marks as much, which in a camp environment might have mattered before "scotch-guard" could save your bacon. Plus they offered a bit of decoration too. Since your van was "refreshed" in the 1950s, it's not surprising you got the same type of fabric. In the vein of old Henry Ford, "you can have anything you like so long as it's duck!" Makes you appreciate how special that front fabric is in the ManorVan banquette, hey? Cheers Seeshell
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Post by stephen&Julie on Nov 9, 2013 8:26:38 GMT 10
Hi All, Cobber, yes the glass is very wavy and distorted Cheers Stephen&Julie
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Post by 1954homemade on Nov 9, 2013 9:32:12 GMT 10
Wow Steve & Julie,
What a great looking van.
I saw it on ebay a few minutes after it was listed and thought to myself what a great van that would be for someone that has the time, energy and is capable of bringing it back to it's former glory.
Soooooooooooooo glad that you managed to get it.
Julie I bet you think that you've created a bit of a moster in Steve since seeing that first olympic !!!
Luv Di
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