Mildura 2010 (Third Nationals)

[Deleted]

I was going to leave this topic a while, but ................

Will & Lyn say:


but it is a good opportunity to set sights on the next one
what about setting our goal to have eighty on the next National
I had quite a few people mention that Mildura is a great place and central to our demographics
It was also mooted that it will be our first international with the inclusion of Cornish Lass who is saving to come down in two years
Lyn and I have welcomed her to stay with us when she arrives
I cant sell Tia because we are supplying her with Tia and a vin car while she is here
As there are quite a few members of the holden group fc fe Club that habitate both groups I am thinking that perhaps we could hold a combined meeting on or about the same days
I dont know if that is a reasonable suggestion or if I will be shot down
but it seems to be they have similiar ideas to us as being centrally located
and perhaps it may entice more people to follow our pre 70s vin van culture
perhaps Mark Kaybees Reddo and in fact anyone that has an interest in our future nationals may like to add the comments
in fact I think Mark should initiate a new thread that can be used as a sounding board for future ideas and thoughts to attract more vin vanners to the next national in two years might be interesting
As we all know we are not a club never will be a club we dont have rules but a few guidelines seems to be where we are at
Mark Myself and Jailbar had a Lady who came to the Mount with her friends
she said she had an absolute ball and will be joining the group
but our trophy meeting as poorly organised and that the itinery should have been more organised looking at me
we all tried to explain that Mark started the group and he didnt know about the meeting untill a half an hour before
Jailbar didnt know until 20 minutes before and I didnt know for about the same time
she just couldnt grasp the fact that everything that happened the was not a co-ordinated internal effort

she said what about the Tacky Ball bus trips and the boat trip
I told her Geoff (Fire fighter) showed lyn the brochure for the boat trip and she organised it the day of the ball
the bus trips were of the cuff I asked how much they would charge for a two hour tour they said $6.00 and we took a head count simple easy no effort no stress
the ball was the same a few phone calls 5 months before and it fell together
I tried to explain there where no committees and any one can organise what they want when they want if members take it up then its a goer if they dont its not
she was still not convinced it wasnt pre organised but that is what we do and why it has spread like wildfire we further explained
I know this is not the appropriate time as everyone is probably tired fom driving
If we want a record amount attending the International National
in two years then we will have to start working on it from today
in six months we should have a Destination point 18 months is ample time to arrange for a weeks holiday to do something we all love doing
so lets head for another record nationals
if you have something that would be of interest or you think may improve the next one bring it out and lets talk about it

Will and Lyn

[fcdriver]

Hi All,
As a forum member who only visited this years caravan meet at Mt Gambier as I was partisipating in the FE FC Nationals at the Mount, I wondered how many other forum members had other arangements over easter. I was lucky as I was at the mount.
However as our FC still runs a very tired Grey moter I wouldn,t use it to tow a van all the way to M G. (A wise decission in retrospect Hot Hot Hot).
So as a lot of us who have vintage , classic vehicles find ourselves allready committed either yearly or bi-yearly to vintage car club nationals etc.
Sooo..... Whilst Its great to have the Caravan Nationals close to Easter some of us attending both the Caravn nationals & a car Nationals need to tow their van to "say" Mildura for the Caravan nationals then return home park their van & modern car, jump into their classic car to "say" Orange for their car's nationals.
Now....By having two great events to attend by having them both close together only needs one leave application to be applied for at one's workplace, case for keeping them both close together.
Now... By having the Nationals further away from easter more Vintage van owners who have various other regular arangements at Easter could attend.
"""There again""" This is a vintage van forum and its up to forum members to pick their preferance at this time of year.
I personally pick another event and don,t attend Munmmorra but put Coledale ahead of any classic car event.
Anyway just my thoughts but lets hope we never become a club.
Footnote....On the way to the FC Holden nationals we had a smashed windscrean,had to do the timing. vaperising or fuel over & over and other anoying problems to be attended to.
However being at Mt gambier it was really nice to at least visit the Vint van nationals and see everone..........Your all a great mob. ;D ;D
Bruce & Jan

[sportsman 1]

Just a quicky,

I have been talking to Reddo about his "Tour To The Rock". We did it last year in the Vauxhall and Teardrop and my suggestion for 2010 is to have the V V national meet in either Adelaide (or close ) or Port Augusta in around June. This will allow some figuring in of school holidays where necessary, away from Easter, those who want to continue to the Rock (and beyond) can leave from the nationals.

Only downside for this time is possible cold, wet weather, although we left Port Augusta early July and had terrific weather, fine but cool days.

Fink about that one peoples.

Leigh.

[kb3]

The only suggestion I have is to do it over a weekend, so everyone is there at the same time. During week makes it hard for those working, make it a weekend and those who want can get there early or leave later, but it makes a few main days that everyone can and will aim for

Mildura sounds good ;D

[tinnie]

Awesome event, can't wait for two years to do it all again.

How about the MMMMMs for the 2010 'Internationals' Nationals.

Mildura in May, event 'ends' on a Monday. (Thursday to Monday???)

Those of us east of Mildura can 'Meander along the Murray to Mildura'. Bring it on.
Might need a Morris and an old Millard ;D ;D

Cheers,
Gristy

[Cruz]

Hi ,Mildura sounds good to me but not to close to easter .
Thanks Leanne

[Roehm3108]

How about taking over a whole caravan park/town even, like Peterborough - a very interesting town in itself!
Personally would prefer away from Easter, but not a real problem, except getting sites on the trip there and also enough bulk sites at whatever final venue becomes.

Ray

[Deleted]

Hi All

I was approached by the short red haired lady when she walked into the camp kitchen at the end of the mock up awards and trophy presentation. She DEMANDED to know who the club pres was. I told her there was no such thing and she just seemed to get more agitated. She wanted to know about the judging and trophys . I said it was just a bit of fun and games and an opportunity for those that didnt go to the T N T ball the night before to have a bit of fun / yarn with the others over a couple of beers.
I went on to tell her If we ever took our vans as serious as car/bike clubs take thier cars/bikes and judging It would stuff up a good thing we have going and i would give up on the vintage vanning scene.. This seemed to compound her confusion... the red hair just got redder..

It was then that i pointed her at Mark.. Sorry Mate. Jailbarjuice was hovering nearby and i triedd to drag him away before he copped an earful too. But he seemed content to try and explain what we are about along with Mark.

It was wednesday night and i hadnt seen her anywhere in the park since i arrived on Monday. As far as i am aware She did not attempt to come up and mingle with any of the other vanners during those three days . ....Then all of a sudden we are a bunch of disorganised rabble and we should be posting itenarys up for all to see.
She suggested putting the itenarys up in the main office. I told her i had been in the park for 3 days and hadnt been near the office since i paid my fees. So what was the point of having an itenary.

I suggested that she should get onto www.vintagecaravans and spend some time getting a feel for what we are about rather than storming in halfway through the week and demanding that things be better organised. Perhaps if she had got off her arse and came and socialised with us earlier in the week she would have been a happy camper.

Again its the noisey minority trying to upset the happy majority.
Sound familiar?? i am sure it does. By this stage in life We have all been through the Junior soccer, netball, fishing , car club nights when some pea brain tries to change the world and ends up succeeding in causing an uproar and division between long time mates.....
Ya gotta ask yourselves do we want to end up going down that path...
NO OF COURSE NOT. ;D

Thats the whole reason that this site was like a breath of fresh air when i found it back in 2004. I seen it as a welcome relief from the bickering and backbiting club scene. Just a bunch of middle aged blokes and sheilas having a bloody good time. No rules, no competition.

Nuff said...(pause to climb down off soapbox)..

Mildura... Yup i am happy with that .. or anywhere else for that matter.
Just keep in mind that the W.A mob have a fair bit further to travel than us east coasters and i would be happy to travel a bit further west if thats what we come up with.. Barossa Valley

Another "Must do" is to ensure that whatever van park we end up settling on . The Manager needs to be TOLD that we will all like to be in the one area.. One Block.. One street .. what ever.
Not scattered to the wind and punctuated with late model vans in between us. I know this isnt critical but wouldnt it be nice just for once to be all in the same area.. sorta like taking over coledale for the weekend.
Whole park totally booked out to the vintage van Nats. Surely its not that big an ask.. especially if we pick a weekend away from easter.


The Uluru trip... Nup...... Lost interest. Someone put it into perspective when they said . Days and Days of nothingness .. Then a big rock.
From there you either turn around and go home , or travel for another three weeks north, then east, then south.
Nup.. I think i will give it a miss.
Maybe something like Tassie after Coledale one year might be a better option. Dunno.

In closing... I joined this site for
its light heartedness.
The commararderie between mates..... not competition
The spontaneous way that runs/gatherings..."Just Happen"
The Participation of members .... not the politics of a club
The love of travelling this great country and meeting other vintage ( and modern) van weirdos.. not whingers and control freaks.

If it gets to a point where we are herded along like cattle and mustered into "must do" organised events while i am on a vintage vanning holiday them i will sell the bloody 4 vans and wander off and find another hobby.

Cheers all
Reddo.. outspoken as always
Maybe i need another holiday.

[atouchofglass]

Reddo
I totally agree
Those that need presidents, treasurers, minute takers, wacker, wacker,wacker, etc are anal retentive.

I tend not to join clubs for that reason.
There is always someone trying to lord it over everyone else to make themselves feel good
They can go >*&^ themselves... the missing word is "smack"

your red head sounds like a candidate for that position

Just letting it happen allows for spontaneity

Never change this site it is perfect as it is....... even if it allows reprobates like me on it.... ;D ;D

(yes I needed spell check for those big words) ;D ;D ;D


Atog

[scootman]

You sure tell a good yarn Reddo, I have been sitting here for weeks watching you all get ready, go, have fun, and return.
Was just a little bit too far for me to get there. However I was there in Spirit.
When your making your plans dont discount nor forget NQ! there are some really nice places north of Rockhampton worth seeing. Dingo Beach outside of proserpine. Hydeaway bay not far from there. All have great van parks on the ocean in the middle of nowhere away from everyone. And are always looking for business.
Cheers
Scoot

[neilncheryl]

Hi All
As a new member on this site I must say I quite enjoy reading the comradrie between the members regardless of the model van/vehicle they have. The common passion amongst us is a passion for "old stuff" (vintage vans in particular) and this is what the site has been about - that's a good thing.
Mildura sounds good to us but we would be happy to travel wherever the Nats are held.
Take heart - this is a good site with good people
No need to fix what aint broke
Neil

[melanco]

Thanks Reddo

I knew you would speak for me...

Mel

[Jennison]

Mildura sounds great to me- all those wineries nearby!!!

jeff

[Impala]

Hi All, Just a note to say what a great event the vv nationals, was, and that we all had a great time.
Now, to reddo, I think that you are overly critical of the "red Head" as you put it, all she wanted was just for someone to have mentioned to her that there was a gathering that evening, as usual, you go to your own version, and create mountains. And she was in the park from Saturday, sorry she didnt single you out earlier so that you could know she was there.
Mildura sounds good to us, and anytime suits, the same arrangement as this year was good, as it added more time to the holiday.
Also, in saying that all the vintage vans should be together, does that mean that someone who has a modern van, but is with the vv group, they cannot camp with the oldies.

[skyline59]

G'dday all, Mildura sounds good to me, but whatever destination is selected, we look forward to being there , Regards Brett

[Deleted]

Impala says: Now, to reddo, I think that you are overly critical of the "red Head" as you put it, all she wanted was just for someone to have mentioned to her that there was a gathering that evening,

thanks Impala .............I was very much involved in that conversation, and I thought the "red Head" lady was lovely, and she did have a valid point , geez .....I didn't even know about the gathering myself until I made a chance visit to one of the camps 45 mins before we were due to meet for the trophy presentation, and I'm supposed to be the Grand Poo Bah ;D ;D

Now, who's running this show ......... what's happening ......when & where ......why .......crikey, nobody tells me anything ...... ;D ;D ;D


GPB

[earlee]

well, strike a light!

whats all this about a redhead?

who was she matching with at the mount?

she sounds easy to fire up!

pleased you put out her flame reddo!

[willyn]

Gidday all
The Redhead lady came with Impalas group
was an extremely nice lady as was her group
Im sure what Reddo says is the way most of us think
as we are a different breed from Club stalwarts !!
I am not being critical of Reddo ;D when I say the following
Impala is a new Member and came with his friends three other vans)who thoroughly enjoyed what we had to offer
the only thing that had her baffled was the mount appeared or(looked) like it was organised while we were doing it
they were at the tnt ball and on one of the bus trips

when every one was headed for the recreation area she was miffed why no one seemed to know about the trophy presentations
from her perspective it seemed organised up to that point and didnt understand why there was not a notification of the meeting
a simple misunderstanding
we are certainly happy to have had The Redhead as she is now affectionely known as a member
and she did say to us she was becoming a member
perhaps she can sign on as the Redhead and give Jailbar a razz

Jailbar explained to her in his own inimitable way of how it was similiar to Reddos soapbox and she said "YOU CAN LEAVE NOW"
the Redhead can handle herself
say no more !!!


Will
boxing and Martial Arts promotions of WA

PS
However IMPALA we welcome your group at anytime
I had a few discussions and I found them a delightfull group they were appreciative and excited about how good the week had been

[groovygramps]

Hi all,

Mildura or any place else sounds good to us. We don't need President, Secretaries or any office bearers/organisers - just need like minded people who enjoy life.
Regards GG.

[Roehm3108]

Taking up Sccotman's suggestion (and stretching it a trifle) how does the Corner Store near Cameron Corner sound to you all? Sort of on the corner to everywhere and nowhere ;D ;D ;D
Ray

[guest]

Was reading Reddos message about 2010 and saw Barossa Valley mentioned. I've just done some checking and the Barossa Valley Tourist Park in Nuriootpa has 200 powered sites. They have blocks of sites available for group bookings. I rang them and enquired about possibly booking a block of 50+ sites and was told there would be no problem. I am a Barossa local and can say this park is very good and central to all Tourist attractions and Wineries, Wineries, Wineries !!!!!!

To Mark T: the web address for the park is www.barossatouristpark.com.au and there is a free call number: 1800251634. If this destination is decided on I would be more that happy to assist with any info. and direct contacts required.

Hubby has just assured me that our van WILL be ready by then!!!

Regards to all, and thanks for the photos for those of us who could not attend this year.

ANN

Note to Mark: I am having trouble logging on with my member ID of TCB.

[Deleted]

Hi Impala and everyonre else for that matter.


You quoted>>>
Also, in saying that all the vintage vans should be together, does that mean that someone who has a modern van, but is with the vv group, they cannot camp with the oldies.

Answer: Yes Exactly.

If anyone is fair dinkum enough about vintage vanning then they will realise that plonking a modern van in the middle of 50 vintage vans is sort of thumbing their nose at the rest of us that have made the effort to restore and tow our vans to a Vintage van gathering.... especially a national gathering.
We have had long winded discussions about modern tow cars towing old vans to gatherings and i have defended those that have done so. Some people just arent into old cars. So it is fair and reasonable to accept modern cars at the vintage van gatherings.
True it would be nice to create a scene from the past with old cars and old vans parked in a caravan park , but we should never forget that the forum/ site is about vintage vans... which leads me back to the comment about being fair dinkum and parking the modern van near the vintage vans but not in amongst them.

There is a lot of great photo opportunities lost when that sort of thing happens.
Surely its not a big ask

Trophy presentation
My mistake for not letting everyone know earlier. I thought it got a mention at the TNT ball maybe it didnt. Even if it had there was those that did not attend the ball. So the best i could do was let everyone that was seen out and about in the van park on wednesday arvo know what was happening and ask them to pass the message on..
At Morgan in 2006 we where all aware of the presentation because each night we gathered around a campfire and it seemed like an ideal spot to do a presentation, if you could call it that.
Blue Lakes had no central focus for the vintage vanners so i just picked the camp kitchen because it was away from most peoples vans and if it got a bit rowdy we wouldnt be upsetting too many people.

The problem was compounded at Mt G because we where scattered to the 4 winds through the park and there was no central location where people gathered. Wednesday night was the last opportunity to bung on a bit of fun because i found out late in the arvo that some where leaving on Thursday morning . Hence the short notice of the get together down in the camp kitchen.
I could have made the decision to just "Can " the idea and leave the trophys in the van. But because it was a fun idea at Morgan and people appreciated getting together for a bit of a giggle i went ahead with it anyway. Besides that why spend a few hours down the shed making the trophies to have them left in my car when i got home.
Same applies with the 2008 nationals stickers and "Participants" certs i made up . Oh Geez ::)dont tell me someone wasnt there when i gave them out on Monday arvo:-X. It seemed like a good idea at the time to deal them out as it appeared to me that everyone that was with the vint van group was up at Will and Lynns van .
I can think of no easier way of dumping water over a bit of fun than to be critical of those that take the time and effort to try and please others.
Ok .. Someone has two years to get it right at the 2010 Nats. If anyone is keen to do the organising and book sites, keep in constant contact with the van park manager to ensure that any relieving staff at the time of the nats are aware that we are coming and our booking requirements, organise numbers and book tours, write up itenarys, run "expressions of interest threads on this forum in one event or another" , make stickers, memrobilla, trophies, etc, etc.. then speak up now. Otherwise the status quo will prevail and the same percieved "stuff ups " will happen in 2010...
"Jeez Loiuse" is that starting to sound like a club or what??
Its a perfect opportunity for new members to step up to the plate and organise things for us.

I apologise to "Mrs Impala" she didnt introduce herself to me when she came into the camp kitchen . It was basically "Who is the President.. whos running this.. it should be better organised" ......
I gave my standard reply.. "Nothing is organised .. It just happens"... then i steered her over to Mark and JBJ.

Now with that out of the way i feel that an apology to JBJ might be in order.... It isnt exactly the way to introduce yourself to a total stranger by saying"You can leave now"
First impression do stick.



Regards
Reddo

[willyn]

gidday Reddo
vintage Vans are what we are all about

the experience is most certainly sharing the efforts and creating a vintage atmosphere as jailbar said in his speech on behalf of queenslanders
Jailbars words were basically it gives us all the experience that our families experienced in earlier years the hardships the breakdowns and by doing what we are doing brings the nostalgia and the experiences they had to endure
as well as the common bond and mateship it fosters
I agree whole heartedly keep the Vin Vans as a group and keep the later model vans to one side on all occassions
this for future members should be an unspoken rule and if it offends people too bad
I agree with Reddo and jailbar 100%
if people are trying the group out I dont think it is too much to ask too set up there late model vans on an appropriate site
its to easy to round up some chairs and join in the fun
as individuals trying out the group before purchasing a Vin Van
im sure this would be little to ask of them
would you park a jap bike at a Harley meeting


Will and Lyn

[virgin]

Willyn,
what about those wusses who don't even turn up with a modern caravan, they fly in on an aeroplane, hire a late model car, and stay in a cabin at the caravan park .....are they allowed to mix it with the vintage vanners

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[neilncheryl]

My first encounter with Vin Vans was seeing them at a caravan park I was holidaying at.
It was a magnificent site to see them all camped together and it would lose something to have modrern vans intermingled with them.
Didn't stop us socialising with the group & we felt welcomed by them.
Neil