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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 15, 2014 22:07:08 GMT 10
Sorry DonR, but the logo does actually carry the "ALUMVAN" strip along the bottom. We have a member on the Classic forum who turned up with a Valiant that has chassis number C221, which I've estimated to be a 1965 model. You can see the logo in this attachment photo: Valiant logoYou can read more about this van here: Valiant C221Why is this van on the Classic forum? Well, we get people joining up over there who decide to stay after they've found out their van is a vintage van. We serve better coffee over there... cheers, Al.
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Post by Don Ricardo on Apr 15, 2014 22:31:26 GMT 10
Hi Franklin1, Hmmm...I see what you mean. I took that extra bit at the bottom as some additional paint applied by the person who repainted the 'VALIANT' letters in yellow. But when I peer at it I see that it is the remnant of the 'Alumvan' strip, and you can just make out a little of the metallic blue (I think it's metallic?) underneath the yellow paint. I took it that B-series Valiants may not have been 'Alumvans' while C-series vans were. However, I yield to your greater knowledge of 60's aluminiums! Remind me again what the difference between B-series and C-series Valiants was... Looks like you should be looking for a sticker similar to the van Franklin1 referred to, Mikeoz22! Don Ricardo
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 16, 2014 9:57:01 GMT 10
There wasn't any difference between the B-series and C-series Valiants per se, DonR. One of the quirky things about the Valiant brand in the 1960s is that the chassis numbering didn't follow a logical sequence. They didn't exhaust all the B-series numbers before starting with the C-series. I have no idea why that was so (it also occurs in the Viscount and Ambassador models as well). And just thinking about the logo on mike's van a bit more...you may well be right in what you said earlier. My understanding is that the 'Alumvan' tag was used from 1964/65 when the Valiants and Ambassadors started getting aluminium frames, to become completely aluminium. The Viscount model got the tag 'Duralvan', probably for a bit of class distinction. Having looked back at the start of this thread, I see that mike's van has a timber frame, so it most likely doesn't deserve to get the Alumvan tag on the bottom of the logo. I'll see if I can find any other Valiants from the early B-series numbers, to try and see what that strip on the bottom actually shows. (Actually, there's a Valiant about two streets away from me with an early B-series number. Will take a walk up there and have a look to see if the logo tells me anything. ) cheers, Al.
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Post by Franklin1 on Apr 16, 2014 12:32:48 GMT 10
Ok, I went for a walk up the road to look at the Valiant, but it was a bit of a waste of time. They've given the whole van a coat of white paint, and I can only now see the outline of the sticker. However, the outline shows the sticker to be the same as the one on mike's van, so there must have been a couple of versions used - which I'll call the 'before' and 'after' the Alumvan strip versions. In the 'before' version, the bottom strip is shorter than the Alumvan 'after' version. The van up the road has the chassis number B2233, and the Google streetview photo from a couple of years ago looks like this... About four years ago, bobandjacqui posted some photos about a little Valiant with the chassis number of B2307, which has the 1966 side stripe pattern on it... A close-up photo of the logo on that van shows it to be identical to mike's van, and to the B2233 van up the road from me... That throws up some doubt about my theory that the Alumvan tag was put on the all-aluminium Valiants, because by 1966 they should have been all aluminium. So, now I'm not sure about any of it... cheers, Al.
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Post by mikeoz22 on May 2, 2014 18:25:28 GMT 10
Cupboard doors painted and test fitted - the pics don't really do justice to the colour but they are a deep 'plum'/damsen colour - we managed to match this with the cloth sample we have for the seats when Michelle gets round to reupholstering them. We also matched the laminate for the backsplash on the kitchen, and continued this laminate on the kitchen table - actually the name of the laminate is 'passionate plum" so I think there may be a fruity theme emerging here....! The interior is still sporting it's white undercoat but this will be top coated with 'Antique White shortly.
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Post by mikeoz22 on May 2, 2014 18:36:43 GMT 10
Franklin, given that my van is pre 64, was there a particular side strip pattern that I should be using? I'm going to keep the van an antique white on the outside but I'd like to reproduce the correct side stripe pattern.
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Post by mikeoz22 on May 2, 2014 18:40:46 GMT 10
Oh, another update - the windows came back from cutting - so now I have a full set of windows. Dave from Plastic Creations in Fyshwick cut them for me in 4.5mm polycarbonate. Rear window, one long front window and one side window cost be $195 and they were ready in a day, great service etc from Dave.
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Post by happydays on May 2, 2014 23:58:46 GMT 10
Hi Mike I have a 66 Valiant that's been in the family since new and hasn't changed much. Happy for you to come have a look if you like. I'm in Deakin. Your interior looks a lot like mine. My chassis no is C576 and was a special order from Lloyd's Caravans in Fyshwick that was delivered Oct 66.
Looking at the exterior, your diamond pattern flows from top to bottom. Looking at other vans that are pre '64, they seem to have flat aluminium through the window section as the van above has - but it is dated at '66 and has the same painted darts as mine. Also, I have noticed pre '64's seem to have painted wooden cupboard doors not wood veneer like yours/mine. Just an observation of mine, not sure how correct it is!
On another note, my Dad said in '66 you could choose a wood frame or aluminium.
I'm pretty new to this forum business and haven't worked out how to put in links to other threads but my thread is called 'Keeping it in the family. 1966 Valiant.' if you want a to have a look at some photos. You will find it in 'New Topics'.
Cheers Janelle
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Post by rvstickers on May 5, 2014 16:07:23 GMT 10
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Post by mikeoz22 on May 20, 2014 8:56:19 GMT 10
Well the process of re-assembling the van has begun. Armed with a tube of Sikalex the LHS panels are now all back on. This weekend the van will be turned so I can work on the RHS. By the time I'm finished this thing won't leak!
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Post by Franklin1 on May 20, 2014 10:51:40 GMT 10
G'day Mike, Very nice progress on the van so far! A couple of photos posted on the forum just don't show the hours and hours of slaving away on a project, do they, but I can see the level of effort that you've put into the job. In regards to the painted design on the sides of your van, I'm thinking that your van might actually be a 1966 model, based on information about other Valiants with chassis numbers just either side of yours, eg. B2233 and B2307 discussed above. One way to perhaps determine the original paint design could be to very carefully strip back the white paint on the exterior cladding of your van, in the position circled in this photo... If you discover a stepped outline that matches the design in the photo, then I reckon you can safely assume it's the 1966 design. cheers, Al.
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Post by mikeoz22 on Jun 3, 2014 17:34:18 GMT 10
The rebuild progresses slowly, but I can see an end in sight! Both sides on now and almost all windows in. Front was sealed up on the weekend, and half of the roof put on. Sikkaflex is a marvellous thing but an absolute bugger to get off your hands. I've still got to put the trim on but that will go on in the next few weeks. This weekend (long weekend - woohoo!) the other half of the roof will be put on, with a view to sealing up the back-end. Any advice on how to put in the rear window with new rubbers gratefully received.
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Post by mikeoz22 on Jul 20, 2014 18:34:16 GMT 10
Well finally after a year and a half, the Valiant left the car port this afternoon. The majority of the construction is complete - its sealed and watertight. I have a few minor 'cosmetic' things left to do such as installing water tank, new tow hitch, building bed base, but these jobs can be done as I get time - the van is now fit for the 'step son' to occupy for a while. And the paint job can wait until the weather warms up again. We've kept things pretty basic and won't complete the fancy fittings such as the upholstery and new curtains etc until he has finished with it, then it will be registered and we will go on the road. The whole experience has been very rewarding and has tested me at times, (I think the dog learnt some new language at times as well...!) but its been fun and I've learnt a lot. Thanks for all your support and advice - its been appreciated. Mikeoz.
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Post by Observatory on Jul 30, 2014 19:58:36 GMT 10
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Post by monique on Aug 6, 2014 7:22:57 GMT 10
Hi All I've just purchased this beauty and I'm trying to work out a year. The chassis # is C429. Based on what I've seen on the forums I'm assuming it's a 64/65 Valiant Alumvan. I can make out the word Alumvan and the capital V on the logo but can't say for certain whether it says Valiant or Viscount, I'm fairly certain it's Valiant though. It has the paint stripe around the windows like the other 64/65 models I've seen but the front windows is different, most I've seen are 2 windows side by side rather than top & bottom. She's a mess on the inside but I'm doing her up to use as a travel van and also as a shop, I own an online vintage fashion store. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Monique Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by mibosa on Oct 23, 2014 8:52:20 GMT 10
Progress continues on the van - electrics upgraded and finished - with a new switch board. Roof lining in, new architraves and hatch surround completed, ready for painting. Insulation on the walls almost complete, and it wont be long before I begin to button this thing up and seal the seams etc. I should be able to paint the interior before that happens, then it's the broken windows to replace and fit.
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Post by mibosa on Oct 23, 2014 8:57:50 GMT 10
I know these photos are from some time back, but can you please advise what type of ply you used for your ceiling? I have a 66 Viscount Ambassador with the aluminium frame so our shapes are similar and I started fixing the ceiling with 3mm MDF but even though firmly fixed, it is starting to warp in places, even before I have been able to fix my wooden cornice pieces. So ply is obviously the go for natural strength and 'bendability'. My previous masonite ceiling was fixed the the ceiling beams using pop rivets, a method which I have also continued with. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Bob.
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Post by mikeoz22 on Dec 11, 2014 15:01:49 GMT 10
Hi Bob, sorry for the late reply, I used sheets of 3mm ply from Bunnings. I found that the best time to put the ply in was when there was little moisture in the air as this caused the warping. So most of my reno was done during summer.
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Post by mibosa on Dec 12, 2014 16:25:02 GMT 10
Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedHi mikeoz22, thanks for your response. I ended up going for the 3mm Bunnings plywood and so far I am happy with it. I don't utilise the photobucket process often and hope I have downloaded three photographs okay. One of the photographs is of the inside of a friends Roadmaster caravan where I quite like the colour schemes he has used and the exposed beams on the ceiling. The other two photographs are of the unpainted interior of my van where I have supported the plywood to the ceiling by the use of cross beams etc. I am hoping that it will look quite impressive once painted. The same that people use feature walls in houses, I am hoping that the ceiling will be an attractive feature inside the van. I am spending a lot of time in preparing for the painting of the ceiling by filling any gaps between the plywood ceiling with gap filler and subsequent sanding to provide a suitable finish. Anyone viewing these photos will note that I have removed the original 240v ceiling oyster lights and am now using 12v LED spotlights throughout the van, of varying wattages. I have about 9 LED spotlights around the van plus two LED striplights above the sink/cooking area. Regards, Bob.
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Post by mikeoz22 on Jul 15, 2015 18:10:00 GMT 10
So step son has now finished with the van (hooray) so I can now get on and finish it properly. I haven't been idle though as I've been looking for a period correct tow vehicle, and I recently purchased a 1959 Mk II Ford Zephyr Station wagon. It's located in WA where my father in law is doing it up for me. I will post links to the photos a bit later. But needless to say I'm looking forward to getting the van and the car together.
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Post by mikeoz22 on Jul 15, 2015 18:14:47 GMT 10
Here's the link to the picture of the Zephyr - needs some work but that's ok:
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Post by mikeoz22 on Jan 14, 2016 7:26:20 GMT 10
So got the new floor lino laid over the weekend - light grey: Spent last night spray painting the bed frame. I was going to etch prime the exterior this weekend but it seems that etch primer doesn't work over old paint so I'm now considering getting the exterior soda blasted back to the aluminium.
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Post by mikeoz22 on Mar 10, 2016 14:52:33 GMT 10
Change of plans - soda blasting is going to cost too much so I've undercoated the old paint with a high stick undercoat from Dulux. I'm then going to overspray this with gloss white and an appropriate coloured stripe. In the undercoat, the van now looks 'whole' rather than a patchwork of repaired panels. Once the paint is done, the reflectors etc can go on and then we might actually have an opportunity to register it and get some use out of it. Would seem such a shame to waste all the hard work and hours that have gone into it otherwise!
My wife has taken on the job of making new seat covers and curtains - so hopefully not long now until it's finally finished.
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Post by destry on Nov 16, 2016 18:46:36 GMT 10
Sorry DonR, but the logo does actually carry the "ALUMVAN" strip along the bottom. We have a member on the Classic forum who turned up with a Valiant that has chassis number C221, which I've estimated to be a 1965 model. You can see the logo in this attachment photo: Valiant logoYou can read more about this van here: Valiant C221Why is this van on the Classic forum? Well, we get people joining up over there who decide to stay after they've found out their van is a vintage van. We serve better coffee over there... cheers, Al.
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Post by destry on Nov 16, 2016 18:52:47 GMT 10
Sorry DonR, but the logo does actually carry the "ALUMVAN" strip along the bottom. We have a member on the Classic forum who turned up with a Valiant that has chassis number C221, which I've estimated to be a 1965 model. You can see the logo in this attachment photo: Valiant logoYou can read more about this van here: Valiant C221Why is this van on the Classic forum? Well, we get people joining up over there who decide to stay after they've found out their van is a vintage van. We serve better coffee over there... cheers, Al. I have a valiant with a911 chas no its a alum van and has alloy frame to can any one help with paint colours mine has blue very faded paint op
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