Post by twocutekelpies on Oct 5, 2018 20:13:32 GMT 10
Hi Vanmad I think Arthur is on the money, the Ambassador decal (sticker) changed in 1970 and the numbering system started again in 1970 so that fits with what he said about 355. Is 4841 all that's written on the drawbar or is there a letter hiding behind the hanging chain? Shelley
Thanks Shelley, yep that’s all unfortunately. There is a long TR number which looks to have been stamped on later for rego purposes and this appears in the current rego documents. That’s on the other side under the van body. I will probs. go with late 60s early 70s as Arthur has it! Do you think the decal looks right, and should it be here or above the windows?
Hello, new here E6622, have been told it is a 1966 model. It originally had salmon flashing, which I believe was original as I found this van sitting for 35 years with a "house" built around it near Nimbin, NSW.
Hi frenzix, I'm unable to see your photo but from number alone, E6622 would be a 1968 Ambassador. I'd love to see some interior and exterior pics
Ok.. 68 sounds more like it. I just put up a pic above. I redid the flashing to suit my chev. The interior is almost finished. It was missing the kitchen, table and had water damage to the ceiling and cupboards. I have repaired or replaced these now, not exactly original but within my budget. Will post photos soon.
Hi all, I have come across E1788. It has rounded front and rear windows which look original. Interior is non existent, chassis and exterior are solid and it quite good overall condition. Will post photos when I can..
Post by flyingtale on Jan 21, 2021 23:07:08 GMT 10
Hi. Please help. As yet I don’t have my chassis number and am buying a van but the seller has so little info for me. I believe the van is a 1968 Ambassador Alluvan 12-14 ft. I have been trying to find specs on the Weight of it as I have a 2wd Rav 4 Gx that has an 800 kg braked capacity which I will use to tow it. Does anyone have any knowledge about the Tare. Will I be able to tow it with my car? I’m looking to ward to getting the chassis number so I can learn more about the van from this forum. Thanks, flyingtale
Hi flyingtale I have no technical information to base this on but I would be hugely surprised if your van was under 800kg. At 12 to 14 feet it would have to be pushing 1000/1100kg+ by my best guess. (I used to have an 11/12 foot aluminium Millard[about 1969/70] which weighed 1100kg) I'd be very wary of trying to tow it with a 2wd RAV. Speaking as a heavy vehicle instructor and licence assessor a small front wheel drive towcar is a poor towing platform for any van for my money....rear wheel drive or all wheel drive is the way to go for towing safely. Best of luck regards Jenno .
Last Edit: Jan 22, 2021 7:13:54 GMT 10 by Jennison
I agree with Jennison's comments and expect the van which you are considering to weigh 1100 to 1200kg and that model RAV4 is unsuitable to tow that caravan. As a rough guide I like to tow a van which weighs no more than 2/3 the rated towing capacity of the tow vehicle. Just because a vehicle manufacturer says that you can tow a particular weight it doesn't mean that you should.
Koala is right(agreeable bunch aren't we ) Car manufacturers claims as to the towing capacity of a their vehicle grossly exceeds the realistic day to day "SAFE" towing capacity of those vehicles.... Especially in the hands of inexperienced "towcar" drivers" In recent years it's become a "p#####g" competition between the manufacturers (particularly in the case of twin cab utes who are nearly all magically capable of safely hauling and stopping!? 3.5 tonne these days!) that is putting peoples lives at risk regards Jenno
Last Edit: Jan 22, 2021 14:12:50 GMT 10 by Jennison
Post by Don Ricardo on Jan 22, 2021 15:06:32 GMT 10
You may be interested in a thread started by Morgzord regarding the weight of his 1968 15 ft Viscount Ambassador - click here.
He reported that when he weighed his van it came in a 'nudge under a ton' and the ball weight was 90 kgs. If your van is actually only 12 ft or 14 ft then it will weigh less than Morgzord's and, if it is the smaller one, may even come somewhere near 800 kgs BUT remember that that's the van without anything in it. Once you chuck in your gear, some water in the tank, a full gas bottle, etc, you will be adding quite a bit to the weight and you'll be over the towing capacity of your vehicle which brings with it legality, insurance and personal safety concerns.
The other factor is the tow ball capacity of your vehicle. If it has a towing capacity of 800 kgs, the tow ball capacity (ie the downforce of the van on the tow ball of your vehicle) may be 80 kgs, but it may also be less. That's something you need to check out. Your owner's manual will probably tell you the maximum tow ball weight or Toyota will be able to.
Even if the van does end up being just within the stated towing capacity of your vehicle, I agree with Jennison and Koala that you don't want to be towing something that is right on the limit of your vehicle. You're much better off towing a van that leaves your vehicle with some 'spare' capacity. I also agree with the comment that a FWD vehicle is not ideal for towing because the weight on the back can affect the contact your driving and steering wheels have on the road, and make for a nerve wracking towing experience.
Sorry that we're all bits of wet blankets, but we'd prefer you to be safe and enjoy your journeys with a van than otherwise.
Hello, we are looking at purchasing a van which we've been told is a Viscount Ambassador, the chassis number is 2558E - can anyone help identify what year it may be, I have been looking through the posts and am guessing it's between 1970 (they placed E at the end of the chassis) and 1973 (moved to A chassis?). Thank you
Post by Don Ricardo on Mar 30, 2021 15:08:30 GMT 10
The serial number for your Ambassador is either late 1969 or early 1970 according to Twocutekelpies' Viscount register. We don't have quite enough information to be sure yet. The lightning flash was used from late 1968 (originally on uncoated aluminium, and later on white acrylic coated cladding) to part way through 1970.
There's info on how to post photos here. If you are wanting to post photos of your van from your mobile you can use the 'Add Attachment' button to do it, but note that there's an extra step you need to take to find the button on your phone screen. Yell out if you have any problems.