"now how about getting some serious evidence on the case in question - are those holes countersunk in preparation for countersunk screws or are they left drilled for round head screws. ""
Yeah Dave,, after all , having me employed to represent you in court is costing you a fortune... Read here ...... at least 2 bottles of that bribery scotch ya seemed so eager to accept........ >:("
All we are askn ya ta do is go and wind out at least one of those round head slot heads and show us wots underneath... Shouldnt be all that difficult?? If it exposes a counter sunk hole.. well..... we're sunk
Wordawarning ( my word .. just invented it ;D) Just make sure ya focus the camera before takin a happy snap for evidence .. knock out blow 8-). There are those amongst us ::)that'll be quick to pass sentence if ya cant get things in focus ya know!!
Why just this morning i took a fodo just the way i seen it through the camera lense.... Bloody blurry .. ( come ta think of it........ thats the way it .. and everything else looked without lookn through the lense) ..and the resident forum pensioner.. keeper of the dusty lane...3 wheel nut rimmed....old 37... Ice chest cuddle king..towcoupling freak... came on here and fair hammered me .... Dont say i didnt warn ya old mate...
We are not here to apportion blame The charge brought by the plaintiff Mr 'arold Reddo is a frivolous one..... I did not accuse my friend Mr.Dave Oldfarts of using those screws himself.................. I'm sorry your Honour, that is his name....a friend by any other name is still a friend
The point I was making is that there are right and wrong screws to use when mounting a tea towel rail.
I hope people in the gallery, and members of the Jury, have now been made aware how important it is to use the correct type of screw when mounting their tea towel rail. If you look through the photos of tea towel rails on previous pages you will notice many examples where this law has not been observed, OK so you can't see most of the screws, that's because most people don't care about screws, that is sad
I think Mr. Rod Rodnet (who started this thread, we must never forget that) has deliberately used the wrong screws when mounting the tea towel rail he got from Mr Oldfarts, just to show us how wrong the wrong screws look.... back on reply # 76..... (Thanks for taking the trouble to do that Rod).
Granted... any old screw in the dark will do..... but in the light of day you will be ashamed of yourself if you have made a bad choice.
Some base plates have a countersunk hole, the reason they are countersunk is to enable the screw to sit flush with the surrounding material... so only flat head countersunk slot headed screws should be used in this case.
Other base plates have a flat hole, some times recessed, for the screw to seat on.... countersunk slot headed screws should never be used here. If the hole has been recessed, as in the example below, this again has been done so that the screw used can sit flush with the surrounding material, so non-countersunk, flat head slot headed screws are the go here.
In the exhibit provided by Mr Oldfarts, the manufacturer didn't give a rat's what sort of screw was used.............. so why should we.
“I see the point you are making Mr Cobber...Case dismissed, the Plaintiff will pay all costs”.. said Judge Judy :D.
Order, order, order... Ummmmm... I will have a dozen bottles of your best port.... ;D
On reveiw of Mr C.Obbers evidence supporting his case for the correct screw to be used ( weather in the dark or ... the light of day ) when installing or restoring towel rails in Vintage vans and similar locations . We are prepared to drop all charges.
No convictions will me lodged against MR Oldfarts record as it appears he is an innocent party in this case. The Round head slot head screws appear to have been installed by a person .. or persons unknown at a previuos venue on date unknown.
Seeing as though it is New Years Eve Reddo, Reddo, &Reddo... & sons Have decided not charge Mr Oldfarts for our legal representation in this case.. We have sent the Bill to Cobber !!!!!! ;D ;D
I'll be seeing one of the representatives from Reddo, Reddo Reddo & Sons- shysters extraordinaire - at Motorfest..... I'll fix him and 'is Bill up there
NOW....... look what I found in me shed......... ANOTHER STYLE OF "TEA TOWEL RAIL" ;D :D........ forgot I had it. It was screwed to the side of one of the work benches. Sort of an enlarged type of the one Dave has.
I Installed it in the "Swamp Van" and here she is........
Now......... some people might say over the top of the cooker is not the best place to put a tea towel rail........... and they could be right
The question is ..... where IS the best place to locate a tea towel rail in a caravan, depends on the type of tea towel rail you have ....aye?
The above tea tower rail would not fit well on the inside of your door, where as the one below does....... and the inside of the door I reckon is a good place for a tea towel rail, and I don't mean the inside of a cupboard door ........ what do you all reckon.......... aye ?
I don't want to drag this tea towel rail thread on and on forever but ...I just thought this was an important point that should be discussed before the end of the year............... I could be wrong............. again
BLIMEY ! ..Don't you blokes have jobs to do during the day ???.
First things first ….. Dave, I reckon that bottle of Slot Head Screw Wine is yours........................ until we get to Cowra at least
Second thing...I see you have all ignored my subtle attempt to get some suggestions going about good places to mount Tea Towel Rails. All you're talking about is my example as to where NOT to mount a Tea Towel Rail :P.
Thirdly........ Rod...... where have you been mate ? (I know where you have been.... having fun at Kenilworth while I've been here getting me head kicked in) .....the court case is over mate, finished besides......... are you trying to divert this Tea Towel Rail thread (that you started) onto a discussion about BOLTS ......... Bolts are not Tea Towel Rails.... or slot headed screws..... or wooden pegs........... not even Tea Towels....or any of the other things people have used to try and side track this Tea Towel Rail thread with. Sorry, I know nothing about bolts ::).
Fourthly... There has been an attempt to bring fire fighting equipment into the Tea Towel Rail Thread. All I can say is my fire fighting bucket and Stirrup hand pump are appropriate to the era Ol' 36 was born...... if not effective, appropriate, that's what counts :P.
Fire bucket and Stirrup Hand Pump...... as used in the days when Ol' 36 was made.
(betcha somebody notices there's no water in the bucket ::))
As shown by this original WW II Cigarette card am I allowed to say cigarette on this forum
Anyway........ back to the Tea Towel Rail thread...... "where is the best place to mount a Tea Towel Rail"
The things people do just to be different... they probably knew there would someday be a group of people devoted to the discovery of all the different tea towel rail designs in vintage caravans... and they were determined to be ...noticed.
It must have more than one tea towel rail Rod ???.
In the 1870s, Great Britain’s tea towel came into being. It was a special linen drying cloth that the lady of the home would use to dry expensive tea service pieces of China. Linen was considered the fabric of choice because it was a simple delicate weave and it would not scratch the pieces of fine China or glasses.
The British prided themselves on their tea and they also prided themselves on the service of tea. At great affairs, the tables were impeccably dressed. Gracing the tables often were the finest of linens, the most beautiful of crystals and China, and beautifully matched napkins and tea towels. Dry and clean tea towels were often used as a tea pot cozy (the tea towel was wrapped around a tea pot to insulate and keep the pot warm), the tea towel was also used as a basket warmer. The tea towel was wrapped around, or laid on top of a serving basket or bowl to keep fresh tea scones, tea cakes or muffins warm.
Of course today we continue the tradition; traveling is no reason to forgo High Tea, and we break out our best Melamine service and anodised aluminium pot for the 10am and 4pm services. Tea towels continue to dry our pots and cups, and are then hung with pride of place in the vans in readiness for the next service on very appropriately named tea towel rails.
Keep Calm and Caravan On, Seeshell
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I'd like to thank moderator conti for doing something useful.. ;)(how's ya back ol' mate), by moving seeshell's well researched treatise on the “History of the tea towel” from an inappropriate position on the forum to here, even though this thread is supposed to be about tea towel RAILS. I just hope nobody now gets distracted and starts talking about ….tea pot cosies ::).
Had a feeling you might know something about ....... Hooks But you've only shown three different styles..... somebody out there must have some of the really old retro style hooks ?..come on............. show us your Hooks (in your caravan preferably)....... and keep it clean, OK
Just come accross this topic and found it very entertaining and i hate to open up old wounds, ie the positioning of slot head screws. I'm now going to have to go over my Viscount again and reposition all the screw slots in the window frames and the cabinet hinges. Probably a question to Cobber. Don't the salespeople get uppety if you ask for half horizontal slot the rest vertical. For those using phillips head, do you position them with the points 12,3,6,9 / 1,4,7,10 / or 2,5,8,11
Do it mate...you will notice how much it improves the appearance of the windows and the hinges by having the slots all dressed the way they should be....... Nothing better than a well dressed screw, it shows you care
And .......you've pointed out just how unsuitable those other screws are..... complicated, untidy, no right or wrong way to do 'em, she'll be right...... nobody cares how they dress
What if your slot head is tight at say 3 o'clock and it should be aligned at 6 o'clock.....do you overtighten it and snap the brass screw (have done ::)).or loosen it knowing you now have a slightly loose article. Phillips head gives more lee-way for this situation. Signed Devils Advocate ;D
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Post by King Fisher on Mar 19, 2013 15:37:06 GMT 10
I love Mr Philips so much. My experience with slot screws is a hate HATE relationship as the screwdriver always slips off and sometimes causes scratches. Never happens with Mr Philips' screws. However when using slots they must all line up on the horizontal plane to 3 and 9 O’clock in my opinion, otherwise they drive you crazy. I find with flat screws 1 out of 10 have to be fixed up after snapping them trying to get them to 3 - 9.