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Post by cruisindoug on Nov 26, 2010 18:02:08 GMT 10
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Post by JBJ on Nov 26, 2010 18:59:59 GMT 10
Hi Doug,
I think i have an underdash brake controller hanging in my garage. From memory it hung from a bracket fixed under the dash. I'll dig it out tomorrow if I remember, & take a photo & post it on this thread. We managed to tow & stop a double horse float & 2 horses behind an early Telstar Ghia Auto using electric brakes. It was a bit scarey towing but reasonable stopping.
JBJ
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Post by 56effy on Nov 26, 2010 20:38:47 GMT 10
g'day, don't know if their still legal but there was a electric brake controller that went on the trailer, they were a bit fiddly to set up but worked well, Effy
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Post by humpyboy on Nov 26, 2010 20:41:51 GMT 10
I was actually wondering if the controller could be made removable so that you could use it in another car, IE: with a plug on the back rather than hard wired?
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Post by tucky29 on Nov 26, 2010 22:27:36 GMT 10
hi humpy, i had a elect-brake controller that i fitted a plug into the wiring so i could swap into my hotrod or wh statesman ,it worked and i didn,t have to adjust it from one car to the other. tucky
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Post by cruisindoug on Nov 27, 2010 6:59:04 GMT 10
Yeah I've seen some around that come with a bracket and work as a plug in/out type set up - that could be a good option, I was just wondering if there was "old stuff" out there that would look the part when its all hooked up. Effy that sounds like an idea, they work on a counterweight type set up - the more deceleration it senses the more brakes applied?? Thanks JBJ I will look out for it - a Telstar towing a double horse float must have been a bit "oerwhelmed" ;D ;D. Will look out for you at the nationals Derk! Cheers, Doug.
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Post by JBJ on Nov 27, 2010 11:47:45 GMT 10
Hi Doug,
I had a look & its not where I thought it was, so that indicates I have either given it away or misplaced it. I have a fair bit of junk in a badly organised untidy shed.
So looks like "sorry" I cant help at this stage.
JBJ
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Post by cruisindoug on Nov 27, 2010 12:11:03 GMT 10
No worries thanks for looking - I'm hearing you about the shed
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Post by robbo3 on Nov 27, 2010 14:37:58 GMT 10
Gidday everyone! This is my FJ ute that I've had for about 12 years or so - its running HR front and rear end, 179 HP with triples and a trimatic. Goes well though the original FJ steering box is a little agricultural. Can't claim to have built this one but have built a couple of others (FE Holden, LJ Torana), it is due a paint job that will hopefully come next year, depending on $$$$$$ Still to get towbar organised, am waiting till I get the van weighed and the decision on type of brakes for the van - just as a matter of interest, is there "period" type electric brake controllers available that would suit? That is the biggest off putting thing to me about electric brakes - otherwise I think they would probably be the go ... Cheers, Doug. Nice car , how will you go on dusty roads without aircleaners?
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Post by cruisindoug on Nov 28, 2010 19:10:42 GMT 10
Hi robbo it doesn't often see a dusty road!!! but I have a set of foam filters that I put on most of the time - just take them off for pics and if I'm putting on display on a club run because they look pretty crappy. Cheers, Doug.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2010 7:14:06 GMT 10
Hi Doug Go the humpy utes. She looks great mate. Black can be a bugger of a colour to keep clean ... but when all polished up black cars look great. Very nice Cheers Reddo
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Post by cruisindoug on Nov 29, 2010 8:09:38 GMT 10
Thanks Reddo I've had many years of fun in this car - and plan on many more; just need to do a few things to turn it into a tow car (like putting a tow bar on it ). Yep black is impossible to keep clean but worth it for those few brief moments after its been washed . Cheers, Doug. P.S. Do you still have your EK (?) ute I've seen in many of your posts or did it go when you got the F100?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2010 10:17:29 GMT 10
Hi Doug.. " P.S. Do you still have your EK (?) ute I've seen in many of your posts or did it go when you got the F100? " I am about to put a few photos up here on the Tow car section. The van is for sale. So is my 1968 Norton Commando Fastback Looking at buying another Holden 3 years newer than the 61 FB Van The F100 is safe from the auctioneers hammer at the moment. Stay tuned Reddo
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Post by DC3Td on Nov 29, 2010 12:20:19 GMT 10
Hi Reddo. Sounds like a gold & white HR maybe? cheers gordo
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Post by cruisindoug on Dec 1, 2010 22:50:23 GMT 10
Reddo I was talking about this one: The van looks good though - oh but for a bigger shed, well I spose I'd need a bigger block to put it on too aye!! On to the subject of electric brake controllers, has anyone had any experience of Redarc brake controllers, they LOOK like something I could live with in the ute so long as they WORK redarc.com.au/media/ebrh-reviewCatch ya's, Doug
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Post by chippydave01 on Dec 2, 2010 6:47:52 GMT 10
Hi Doug, I like the idea of that brake controller. I might have to get one. Cheers Dave
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Post by cruisindoug on Dec 2, 2010 7:14:26 GMT 10
If you do someone is selling them cheaper as a buy it now on you know where I was just going to wait a couple a days to see if anyone had good / bad experiences with them .... They also do one that fits entirely to the caravan with nothing in the tow car as 56effy said earlier, anyone have any thoughts on the pros / cons of that type of set up (how much adjustment is done on the run, and how often would you hit the manual over-ride with a car mounted job???)
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Post by RollyDog on Dec 3, 2010 0:34:10 GMT 10
Doug You mentioned about a period style electric brake controller. One that fits the bill is the Kelsey automatic brake controller from Kelsey hayes. It comes with a resistance unit for the caravan. I got one a few months ago. it is a new unit in the box but looks like it is missing one or two bits. I'll research what other parts it needs as the only instructions are for the resistance unit. There is a very similar ute to yours but in maroon being worked on by the mechanic next to us at lawnton at present. Rollydog
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Post by Cruz on Dec 3, 2010 5:46:34 GMT 10
HI,. I use a modern electric brake system the controller fits neatly under the dash in a cradle and you can unplug the controller and move from car to car. once the controller is removed the bracket is very hard to see. The brakes can be applied with the overide ,great when going down a mountain you can rest your car brakes every now and then as the van will just slow you enough. Also very handy if your car brakes fail and you need to stop. (but that's another story). My opion is that electric brakes are well worth the cost. Easy to set up, use and unobtrusive in the tow car. Cruz
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Post by cruisindoug on Dec 3, 2010 11:56:57 GMT 10
Hi Rollydog Is this what your talking about? Might fill in the bits your missing too. Always good to hear of another humpy ute being saved, wouldn't mind checking it out some time ... repairingyesterdaystrailers.yuku.com/topic/321/t/Kelsey-Hayes-brake-controller.htmlWould look period but not so sure if I'd want the control lever there all the time ... Pity the lever can't be removed. And there is also the hassle of finding (a complete) one, that link shows the control unit but doesn't mention the resistor unit, this link discusses it: www.digest.net/ihc/archive/v7/msg00588.htmlThanks Cruz for your input, from the sounds of it, there is a definate advantage of having the gain and manual over ride inside the car - so will look to that type of system, just trying to work out which one! It would also be good to be able to move the controller from car to car - even though the ute is likely to do most of the towing once its all set up. I could probably come up with something to hide the bracket away on a normal controller too - I guess I could buy something and work it out from there! Maybe even go with the Redarc system with the remote switching, just mounted in a way thats easliy removed to take to the other car (leave a plug on the wiring side of it.... Hmmm food for thought.
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Post by RollyDog on Dec 3, 2010 23:36:27 GMT 10
My unit is similar but a lot neater, more like the current units with slider one end and wires/hydraulic in put the other. The missing part is obviously the hydraulic line as the rest is there. Think I prefer the current full electric rather than the hydraulic electric though. Rollydog
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Post by cruisindoug on Dec 6, 2010 9:27:27 GMT 10
Yep I think a full electric set up would be easier and simpler to install, and has the advaantage of being transportable. I think I'll go with the Redarc and set it up so it can be moved if need be.
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Post by cruisindoug on Feb 3, 2011 18:09:07 GMT 10
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Post by cruisindoug on Feb 7, 2011 8:40:02 GMT 10
Not a great start to the utes towing life..... Blew the auto pump seal ... had to reach for the back up car These things happen its all part of the joys as they say Don't think there is any other damage so apart from being very messy shouldn't be too much drama.
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Post by cruisindoug on Apr 13, 2011 16:24:06 GMT 10
Ute got in to the local paper while at lakeside last weekend ... Got the paper today, and its better in colour!!
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