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Post by neal on May 18, 2010 20:03:18 GMT 10
 My wife and I have have after a lot of looking found the "right" van for us! We just got back from Victoria with it. The van is a 14' 7" Vacation She has spent the last forty plus years in a shed, after a couple of trips. As such it is in as new condition and there is very little to do to it! We are very very happy people. As it was bought it unregistered, we need to register it, now we come to the gas certificate. What is required to have it passed, as it is immaculate we don't care to butcher it if we can help it, we have "heard" we need to add heat shields etc, and the stove and fridge won't pass. We need advice as to where we stand, any help?? Neal and Bron
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Post by RollyDog on May 18, 2010 21:51:27 GMT 10
What part of the country are you in ?
If you find a good gas examiner then they will be able to guide you along. I had similar problems quite a few years back when regulations changed and am about to register a Cub Drifter Camper van that hasn't been registered for many years just to sell so need the following as a minimum.
A chinaman's style hat on the roof above the stove/ fridge.
Ventilation panel in the door.
Working regulator preferably above the height of the gas bottle, in date cylinder and good gas lines, especially any flexible joints/ hoses.
Unsure about the fridge but will find out soon with mine.
These above are just the minimum but probably more regs to comply with as well.
Rollydog
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Post by neal on May 19, 2010 19:32:47 GMT 10
My location is southern Queensland.
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Post by RollyDog on May 19, 2010 21:20:49 GMT 10
I deal with a fellow on the northside of Brisbane if that helps. He owns Caravan Refridgeration Services and for a very long time was at Lawnton but has recently closed up there and operates a mobile service now. I have always found Jeff very fair in advising what is needed and then providing the needed certificates etc.
Rollydog
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Post by frankidownunder on May 19, 2010 21:30:10 GMT 10
Try Caboolture Caravans at Caboolture, They can advise you of the Qld requirements and do all the necessary work for rego, gas certificate etc. I have no personal connection to them but others speak highly of the company.
Frankidownunder.
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Post by neal on May 20, 2010 16:14:40 GMT 10
Thanks for the info, but I am on the south side of Brizzy, around the springwood area, we are also looking for an electrician to fit a circut breaker box and a safty switch into our new pride and joy.
Neal and Bron
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Post by RollyDog on May 20, 2010 22:04:10 GMT 10
Neal
There should be someone decent down there. Moss Street Slacks Creek seems to have everything else. CAMEC at Acacia Ridge would be able to help with parts and probably advice on a local man for you.
Rollydog
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Post by neal on May 21, 2010 6:32:13 GMT 10
hi and thank you. i think we will end up at moss street. we have heard from a staff member at supacheap that somewhere in loganholme there is a chap who makes his own caravans so we might investigate that as well....
the chassis number on our A frame is 1445 . does this help to date the van.... the number is not the normal stick weld but HOLE PUNCHED...
any info on the chassis number would be appreciated...
thanks
Neal and Bron
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Post by King Woody on Nov 20, 2014 6:36:23 GMT 10
Hi all. I know this a really old post, and I can't seem to find anything written more recent, but I had an interesting conversation with the gas certifier that we used when rebuilding our 68 Viscount. As nothing was left to restore inside, we had to replace everyting! I had bought a beautiful '60's stove that we thought would would suit but was told that it couldn't be used because it didn't have the new AGA stamp of approval! No cut-off valve - no certification! He was a "stickler for the rules" and so wouldn't entertain the story that "it came out of the van originally so why can't I just put it back in" He said that the gas certifyers are struggling with the problem of restored vans - if you remove the stove to paint the cupboard or renew the aluminium heat shielding, you can't put it back in and get it certified!
Has anyone else had this problem? We had to invest $845 on a "modern" stove/oven to get certified for registration! Did I get stuck with the only certifier that thinks this way?
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Post by Koala on Nov 20, 2014 7:46:34 GMT 10
Maybe the rules are different elsewhere and I am totally wrong but I don't believe that the gas installation has anything to do with a roadworthy inspection for an older van.
In my case, when my unregistered 69 Franklin was inspected in the ACT they did not even look at the gas or ask any questions.
For additional peace of mind I have installed a gas detector.
koala
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Post by King Woody on Nov 20, 2014 8:52:11 GMT 10
Yeh. In Queensland they need the Gas Certificate for Registration. You can lie and tell them there's no gas on board, but I'd say the insurance company would swoop on that deception pretty quick! I guess the reason for my question is my next project which is a 1954 homemade restoration that I would like to complete as originally as possible. Unfortunately there's a big gap in the cabinetry where the old stove used to be and we have since sourced a very traditional looking replacement that looks like it works fine, but now I'm concerned that we won't able to use it!
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Post by shesgotthelook on Nov 20, 2014 10:46:31 GMT 10
Buy a PO Box in Vic  All they look at is the lights, weight & length. Although with another van I had that never had gas, the plumbers wouldn't put it in unless I tiled the stove cavity, wall & cupboards above. I didn't end up doing it. Sometimes it's easier to have no gas & carry a primus type stove & gas bottle with you & cook outside. |
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Post by webrake4bricabrac on Nov 20, 2014 11:01:53 GMT 10
Hi all. I know this a really old post, and I can't seem to find anything written more recent, but I had an interesting conversation with the gas certifier that we used when rebuilding our 68 Viscount. As nothing was left to restore inside, we had to replace everyting! I had bought a beautiful '60's stove that we thought would would suit but was told that it couldn't be used because it didn't have the new AGA stamp of approval! No cut-off valve - no certification! He was a "stickler for the rules" and so wouldn't entertain the story that "it came out of the van originally so why can't I just put it back in" He said that the gas certifyers are struggling with the problem of restored vans - if you remove the stove to paint the cupboard or renew the aluminium heat shielding, you can't put it back in and get it certified! Has anyone else had this problem? We had to invest $845 on a "modern" stove/oven to get certified for registration! Did I get stuck with the only certifier that thinks this way? I had a similar problem with a 50s gas cooker that we bought for our kitchen at home. Because we moved it from another house, we had to get it certified, which included having a cut out switch fitted in the oven. Cost some $$, but at least we know it is safer... |
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Post by tooleyau on Nov 20, 2014 16:33:44 GMT 10
When we went to restore our van I took all the gas hardlines out because they didn't look safe, and you don't muck around with gas. I went out to Jayco to speak to them about replacing the lines, but they could not certify it as it never had a certificate in the first place. They would put in new lines, but not certificate.
We also put in a new gas fridge.
I contacted the local plumbers association in Canberra and explained the problem and asked if they could put me onto a plumber with a gas licence. A young fellow turned up, and over the weekend he put in new gas pipes in, everything from the gas bottle to the stove and fridge. He put in two cutout valves, one for each, and then certified the van. The stove was the original one, and did not have any " ticket of approval".
Therefore, I would suggest you get onto a plumber with a gas licence and talk to them about your requirements.
Mike.
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Post by King Woody on Nov 20, 2014 16:53:51 GMT 10
Thanks Mike... Yeh, I think I might have got a new inspector with a brand new, shiny rule book! I think I'll yellow pages another one next time!
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Post by gilbert on Nov 26, 2014 20:39:24 GMT 10
Yes in vic all they look at is tail lights weight and length if they ever mention the stove take it out and put it back in when van is on the road because you have stove out to renovate it wink wink
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My wife and I have have after a lot of looking found the "right" van for us! We just got back from Victoria with it. The van is a 14' 7" Vacation She has spent the last forty plus years in a shed, after a couple of trips. As such it is in as new condition and there is very little to do to it! We are very very happy people. As it was bought it unregistered, we need to register it, now we come to the gas certificate. What is required to have it passed, as it is immaculate we don't care to butcher it if we can help it, we have "heard" we need to add heat shields etc, and the stove and fridge won't pass. We need advice as to where we stand, any help?? 
All they look at is the lights, weight & length.