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Post by whippy on Feb 25, 2009 8:22:28 GMT 10
I am about to start restoring the side of the Globetrotter, the whole side needs replacing, I have located the joins in the bondwood and I am thinking it would be smart to remove one panel at a time to make sure the roof shape is retained. What glue is the best to use? This is Twiggy now:-  |
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Post by JBJ on Feb 25, 2009 9:46:13 GMT 10
Hi whippy,
I've had no worries using the cheaper tubed glues from Bunnings on the Sunliner woodwork, & on Lucille. I'm currently using a bostick ( I think) product at less than $3 a tube. Dries good, reasonably quickly, but can be a bit lumpy to look at sides of the join. But most joins cant be seen.
JBJ
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Post by minicamper on Feb 25, 2009 13:35:43 GMT 10
Whippy, are you talking about glueing it to the frame, or for the joins in the panels?
Cheers
Chris
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Post by whippy on Feb 25, 2009 14:54:15 GMT 10
Both Chris, gluing it to the frame and the joints'
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Post by minicamper on Feb 25, 2009 16:49:53 GMT 10
Hi Whippy,
In that case, in my humble opinion, I'd go for traditional good quality wood glue to adhere to the frame (and screwed) and then I just used Sikaflex for the panel joins. Its tough as, waterproof, flexible, sandable and paintable!
Cheers
Chris
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Post by whippy on Feb 25, 2009 19:39:18 GMT 10
Thanks Chris, I rang around today, the sheets are only $44 each, I need three. I am rapt!!!!!!
I reckon I can get the van on the road for less than $500.oo !!!
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Post by retro1 on Feb 25, 2009 23:30:57 GMT 10
Selleys do an AQUADHERE polyurethane indoor/outdoor glue. It looks like honey and expands like a foam once dry. It can stick wood to glass, metal and plastic. From my experience normal PVA aquadhere can become white and loose its sticking capability after a while. I restored my Castle caravan (http://vintagecaravans.proboards30.com/index.cgi?board=photo&action=display&thread=1140&page=1)
with this glue about 4 years ago and it is under cover but has been on the road in rain and has not moved yet.
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Post by Geoff & Jude on Feb 26, 2009 7:50:31 GMT 10
hi whippy to achieve the shape when we made the new bows for the front of the roadmaster, we laminated 5 thicknesses of timber using basic indoor aquadhere. i was a bit concerned how the glue would last so i kept a few pieces of the offcut and left them on our front wall to see the effects of weather on them. it's been 18 months and the offcuts have been through all sorts of weather - rain, hail and shine - and to date have not shown any signs of deterioration.  i can't see any problem with using aquadhere, but the final choice is always yours. hope this helps, geoff 'n jude |
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Post by whippy on Feb 26, 2009 12:20:06 GMT 10
Thanks Jeff N jude.
I will use aquadhere, it was water based and came apart when soaked in water, they have obviously improved it.
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Post by sportsman 1 on Feb 26, 2009 13:59:21 GMT 10
Hi all,
Hey whippy, you can get an Aquadhere which is for outdoor use. I don't know what the differences in formulas are but I would suggest using the outdoor stuff.
It would have to be better in any situation I think. I have recently restored a 1938 Dodge truck at work and I used it to bond 8" x 3" hardwood boards together for the rear tray supports. I was very happy with the bond, tried to pry apart some offcuts and broke the timber before it broke the glued joint.
Good luck with it, I will report on a similar job on the Clipper soon (I hope).
cheers, Leigh.
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Post by minicamper on Feb 26, 2009 14:08:50 GMT 10
Whippy, the exterior aquadhere is the stuff i used, and i also had the timber tearing experience on scrap. The sikaflex has been good for the sealing.. better than butyl mastik..
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Post by whippy on Feb 26, 2009 19:09:58 GMT 10
Thanks guys, I will let you know how we go.
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Post by whippy on Mar 1, 2009 19:02:01 GMT 10
I bit the bullet and started removing the side today. no surprises except it was easy to remove, tomorrow I will get the bondwood and start creating a new side, can't wait. I am doing one panel at a time as I am concerned that the roof may distort if I pulls the whole side at once.  The plan is to restore the side then front and back, I will replace the masonite with plywood. |
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Post by whippy on Mar 9, 2009 15:05:06 GMT 10
The first sheet is on. Two to go.  |
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Post by atouchofglass on Mar 9, 2009 18:29:01 GMT 10
Keep at it mate
She looks better already
Every day of work on the van is a day closer to finished
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers
Atog
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Post by whippy on Mar 12, 2009 21:59:03 GMT 10
Thanks Atog for the encouragement, I will get the rest of the bondwood tom orrow and have SWMBO approval to work on Twiggy the whole weekend.
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Post by whippy on Mar 13, 2009 19:16:54 GMT 10
The plan this weekend is to finish the woodwork on Twiggy, a check with the weather bureau indicates showers & thunderstorms. As I cannot get into the backyard or properly under the carport as it is too low, I thought this is the best way to go, 2 feet of the caravan is under the carport, note the flat tyres (that's the missus, she could believe I made it fit without any damage)  |
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Post by whippy on Mar 14, 2009 17:48:54 GMT 10
At 9am this morning she looked like this:-  4pm today she looks like this:-  Tomorrow the front and back and then the primer, I find this very satisfying and I am getting a kick out of each stage I complete. I just got Twiggy in time, only two of the rear braces need replacing, the rest of the van the frame is very good. |
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Post by whippy on Mar 16, 2009 21:40:02 GMT 10
This is how far we got, all rotten coverings replaced.   I will paint on primer tomorrow before work and then I just have to make a new door and the hard work is done. |
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Post by whippy on Apr 6, 2009 23:12:09 GMT 10
Yes she will be finished for Cowes Here is an update:- All the hard work has been done, we just have to clean her out and paint the inside. Refit the back window, the outside topcoat isn't finished but she is a work in progress !!!!  The tailights are very temporary, LED tear drop style ones are on their way.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 11:03:21 GMT 10
Good work Whippy, your making excellent progress!! looks like your doing a very good job that will last many years to come. I don't know what it is about this van but I just love it. I think it's the shape, awesome stuff can't wait to see it on the road. The van is lucky to be in your skilled hands! Keep it up  |
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Post by beetlesbailey on Apr 7, 2009 12:33:33 GMT 10
Congratulations on such fast work Whippy. I wish I was as quick.
I agree with Andrew on the shape of this little G.T.
Now get back out there and finish it! (says he who should be doing the same thing on HIS G.T.)
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Post by whippy on Apr 7, 2009 22:19:23 GMT 10
She is not show quality, but will be neat enough for me.
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Post by JBJ on Apr 8, 2009 7:29:48 GMT 10
Hi Whippy,
You're doing a great job on the van.
I agree with your thoughts on the level of finish required on an old plywood van. My memories of caravans have them being hand painted by my parents to freshen them up for a big trip.
The vans we travelled in seemed old back in the late 50's early 60's, but maybe they werent. I know they were basic, & provided weatherproof sleeping, some clothes storage, & the basic cooking facility.
Theres not much need for any more than that still.
Keep at it, you've saved another one from extinction.
JBJ
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Post by whippy on Apr 9, 2009 23:10:09 GMT 10
I have had a couple of setbacks, late this week I got Twiggy on the weighbridge at Sunbury, after that I had a bit of time to kill before work so I had lunch at Maccas, pulled all of Twiggy's documents out of my pocket to have a look at while I was having lunch, I suddenly realised The time and raced off to work, when I got ther realised I had left the documents on the table at Maccas, I rang them staight away, the girl; I spoke to spent a good ten mins looking for them including the rubbish bins, but they had gone!!!! The purchase reciept, no problem already got another, the weighbridge certificate different story, the guy at the weighbridge will not supply a duplicate nor a photocopy of the book reciept stating I will have to get another one!!!!!!!! Cost $43.00 !!!!! The LED tailights arrived from Ebay yesterday, yep 4 amber ones AHHH kicked the dog, yelled at the cat & threw some tools all over the place. I still had 4 amber lights !!!!! My lovely wife has now told me she is booked in for a workcover operation on her thump the n ight before COWES !!!!! She feels she will be in too much pain. This one I am working on  ?? I will still battle on and will try to be there Friday week. |
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