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Post by cobber on Jul 6, 2008 19:07:38 GMT 10
One thing led to another and I thought this would be an exciting thread for people to add their contributions to.... it's earlees fault, just as the thread on “Old Tow Couplings” was. The trade mark on the ply in earlees lantern roof van is only discernibly by the name “Bull Dog Brand”  I had previously discovered a “Bull Dog Brand” trade mark on a piece of ply in Ol' 36 but was able to also see the name “Hancock” on it, so I had been able to do a bit of research.  Its interesting that the marks are different... probably means that earlees 'van is younger than mine   . The history of this brand of plywood can be seen at. www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A090176b.htmThey are now know as “Boral Hancock” I was prompted to try harder to identify a trade mark I had found on Ol' 36 during restoration  Turns out the clue that “Google” needed was “plywood manufacturer +star in circle” and up came the name of the company in a Pharmaceutical Museum  . (see half way down the page MHM02054)The company was D.G. Brims and Sons who now trade under the name of “Brims wood Panels” but still use the star in a circle as their trade mark.  Their history can be seen at www.austehc.unimelb.edu.au/asaw/biogs/A000984b.htm Now.......... who says I need to get a life... eh?. Cobber. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2008 21:08:39 GMT 10
seems like Bulldog brand made toilet paper as well cobber .....I have this 1940's /50's dunny roll do you think its the same company?  |
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Post by cobber on Dec 31, 2009 15:49:50 GMT 10
Thanks Ron, That means that trade mark was around in 1958 right ? I remember they were sold to P.G.H IN 1967..... then I think P.G.H was taken over by F and T industries in 1972 and so far as I can remember F and T were then taken over by ACMIL in 1977 who were then delisted in 1985. So I don't know if that trade mark was used after about 1967 or not......... maybe Ray can research that for us so I can get on with other things  Cobber |
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Post by 2up on Mar 16, 2010 3:42:00 GMT 10
Hi VV's, I worked for a company known as Hancock & Gore in 1971. They made ply and a lot of panel board and random groove ply.They were beside the PA Hospital in Brisbane.
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Post by littleblackbird on Apr 28, 2011 23:44:48 GMT 10
Found this trade stamp on a piece of ply inside my Canny Van. Don't know if it's the original or replacement as I also found some areas had been lined with Masonite?  |
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Post by cobber on Apr 29, 2011 6:56:29 GMT 10
G'day littleblackbird, Where you bin ? ....... My old eyes can't make out that part of the mark that says "A product of xxxx Plywood Pty", can you decipher it? Masonite might be original (unless it obviously looks like an after thought ) it was a common material used in caravan construction back then, have a look here (reply #9) Cobber |
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Post by littleblackbird on May 7, 2011 19:22:18 GMT 10
Hi Cobber, I've been lying low... I've popped in now and then but haven't had a lot to say, LOL....I ran out of words.... The trademark which I think says 'Tauri' came up with this when Googled. trade.indiamart.com/details.mp?offer=1738639073I have no idea if it is or isn't related... I can't make out the ' product of xxxx Plywood Pty ' either.... I enlarged, cropped, enhanced and tried my daughter reading glasses on and still can't make it out.  |
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Post by cobber on May 8, 2011 7:50:39 GMT 10
G'day littleblackbird, I got a bit of a head-acre trying to work out where that bit of plywood was made If that is a "T" in front of AURI it would appear that "TAURI" is a ply from Malta or the Philippines... as you discovered ?..... also the name of a tree in New Zealand. If that bit in front of AURI could be made to look like a "K" we then have "KAURI" Pine ..... an Aussie species. And if it is just a plain old "AURI" they are a mob in the USofA who were interested in making an adhesive for use in the manufacture of plywood. Where was this piece of ply on your van, inside or outside lining? Hopefully we have an expert out there who can tell us all about this brand mark  Cobber. |
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Post by littleblackbird on Jun 19, 2011 22:43:25 GMT 10
It was a piece of the inside lining..  |
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Post by cobber on Jul 24, 2011 17:05:30 GMT 10
One thing leads to another and I noticed a photo showing plywood branded “Klinkii” in the thread about jodel1050's Franklin.Apparently it is a fairly durable timber from Papua New guinea.... read a bit about it HERE, still being used to this day This piece was Interior “C” bond and used in the bottom of a draw in the Franklin..... mid 1960's  Cobber. |
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Post by griffin on Jul 24, 2011 18:57:31 GMT 10
Here's an advert for KLINKII Ply from a Daily Telegraph supplement on New Guinea dated July 26, 1965. Seems that Viscount used it too. Good to see something local is still in production.
George
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Post by cobber on Jul 25, 2011 9:10:27 GMT 10
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Post by cobber on Nov 1, 2011 14:28:47 GMT 10
Plywood brand on Dosses “Mabel” Brown & Board were a subsidiary company of Josias Hancock of the Hancock and Gore firm and started producing plywood about 1930..... they were timber merchants and house builders prior to then. Later information tells us Wresply was still available in 1954, see this advertisement HERE Thanks Mel There is more information about plywood manufacture in Australia HERE. Cobber. |
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Post by cobber on Dec 26, 2011 14:26:28 GMT 10
Reswood was a waterproof plywood made by Ralph Symonds that was available in lengths up to 25ft. from about 1952. It was painted with a resin that soaked into the ply giving it a reddish tinge and great resistance to water damage. Here we have a sample of “Giand Reswood” as used on the van being restored by Carapark..... see photos HEREOn the edge of the ply the stencil says “GIANT Reswood ” then “25 ft one piece waterproof plywood”. This is probably not their “Trade Mark” but more likely a description of the product .  Cobber. |
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Post by Gypsy 10 on Jul 14, 2013 15:59:00 GMT 10
Whilst stripping down my Gypsy 10 I found this watermark. Can it be dated?  |
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Post by cobber on Jul 14, 2013 17:24:54 GMT 10
G'day Gypsy 10s, Sorry, I did see the plywood brand mark on your other thread but didn't respond because........... I didn't have the answer What this thread is about at this time is trying to gather information about brand marks with the object of helping to age vans in the future, and this brand of yours will help to do that over time...... thanks for posting it. Looking at your van and comparing it to vans in the Gypsy thread in DHL I'm inclined to think your van is a mid 50s job.... go to the DHL and tell us what you think Cobber. |
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Post by Gypsy 10 on Jul 14, 2013 18:21:11 GMT 10
Hi Cobber,
Thought it might not be date-able. I have visited G&L Caravans at Guildford they seem to think that its an early 50's (around or before 54) this is due to the fact (they say) it does not have Alply and that their Gypsy is Alum clad. Their Gypsy 10 is a late 1954 model.
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Post by cobber on Jul 14, 2013 20:10:15 GMT 10
G'day Gypsy 10, I'd like Don R ( who is the expert at analysing the intricacies of these things, me...... I just get confused) to buy into this discussion. I get the impression that around 1956 possibly 1954 ? Gypsy were using products made by Ralph Symonds.... Alply, plasply and Marine ply, prior to that and again around 1959 they were using "water proof plywood" ( possibly made by Hancock & Gore ? ) this confusion, in my mind comes from reading through the advertisements in the the Gypsy thread in DHL and reply #17 in the Caravan construction materials thread in DHL Having read all that stuff I would agree with Carl that your van was made in the first half of the 1950s. Over to you Don R. Cobber. |
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Post by griffin on Aug 13, 2013 19:54:12 GMT 10
Hi Cobber I've started the equivalent of a "Time Team' dig on my 'new' old plywood van and look what I found, on what must be about the only piece of unpainted ply in it, a Brims and Sons trademark. From what I can make out it is specifically 'RESIN PLY' - does this make 'Old 36' a blood brother? George  |
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Post by cobber on Aug 13, 2013 21:01:06 GMT 10
That is interesting Geoge, so far we thought Ralph Symonds started using resin impregnated plywood around 1948.. at least that was the first mention of "plasply" which was a plastic coating they applied to Reswood. The first actual mention of Reswood was in 1952 when they applied a fire retardant paint to it and called it "Rescote".... All that "knowledge" comes from this threadPoor ol '36 didn't have a resin ply ..... just ordinary ply I'd say All we have to do now is find out when Brims & Sons started using "Resin Ply". Are you going to start a thread on your "new old van"  Cobber. |
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Post by akeepsake on Jan 30, 2014 17:09:03 GMT 10
Giday Cobber here is the bondwood trademark on my 49 Jennison As you can see it is similar to Gypsy 10s trademark Cheers Andrew  |
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Post by cobber on Jan 30, 2014 18:30:40 GMT 10
Good on you Andrew, this thread needs a shot in the arm occasionally.
At least we know the year your mark was made ... 1949 and a fair idea when Gypsy 10s was used....mid 1950s.
Might be useful info for somebody one day.
Cobber.
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Post by akeepsake on Apr 29, 2014 21:18:21 GMT 10
Found this in my 63 Millard yesterday as I was cleaning it out for the new owners!  |
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Post by cobber on Oct 1, 2014 8:12:17 GMT 10
Here is another rare plywood trademark. Plywood in one of the draws in the early 1930s Jennison ? prototype pop top ?  The Oxley plywood Co. Pty. Ltd. Started operating in 1926 at Yeerongpilly until 1936 when it moved to Meeandah until 1976 when it appears production ceased. Robert Johnston Donaldston represented Oxley plywood on the inaugural board of 'The Plywood and Veneer Board (Qld)' on the 3rd May 1934. How do I know this ? ...... NO Al !.... I was not there, my info came from This site .... which is an interesting site, if you are interested in the history of plywood manufacture up to 1959. Cobber. |
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Post by cobber on Mar 3, 2015 13:34:55 GMT 10
Newmarket Plywood Co. Pty. Ltd. Brisbane.( from January 1928 at least, until 1963 when they were bought by 'Brown and Broad' ) Found on This van under restoration by Ken Koala  Another "Newmarket Plywood" trade mark was mentioned recently on this forum on a van belonging to gts2dur.  You can see the thread HERE Cobber. |
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